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Pokemon UU Tournament Concensus - Sponson - 03-28-2010
Would any of you be interesting in doing an Under-Used tier (as detailed by Smogon) tournament? It wouldn't be round robin as that was a boat-load of fail.
The sleep, item, pokemon, and evasion clause all still apply, but the uu tier is a lot more forgiving than the ou tier and allows for a lot more variety and fun.
I'm still in school so I probably wouldn't be able to do this very soon, but I'd still like to know the general concensus.
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Re: Pokemon UU Tournament Concensus - CaffeinePowered - 03-28-2010
I think an underused battle would be much more fun and see much more variety than the typical pool people draw from for tourneys
Re: Pokemon UU Tournament Concensus - Duck, Duck, Goose - 03-28-2010
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Re: Pokemon UU Tournament Concensus - Marxo - 03-29-2010
Would definitely be interested in this.
Re: Pokemon UU Tournament Concensus - Coppanuva - 03-29-2010
I'm in. Does this mean UU and below (i.e. NU)? Or only UU?
Re: Pokemon UU Tournament Concensus - Chief - 03-29-2010
what
what is UU
i havent played pokemanz in SOOOO LONNNNG
Re: Pokemon UU Tournament Concensus - Professor Funbucks - 03-29-2010
Like he said, I think it means Unused or Under-used.
also i dont really like tourneys, im not a fan of them
enjoy though
Re: Pokemon UU Tournament Concensus - Trace - 03-29-2010
My rattata is like in the top percentage of rattata. If you guys think you can handle that I'm in 8)
Re: Pokemon UU Tournament Concensus - Professor Funbucks - 03-29-2010
(03-29-2010, 12:59 PM)Trace link Wrote: My rattata is like in the top percentage of rattata. If you guys think you can handle that I'm in 8)I heard about this tip to beat Hoothoot! You should come back and talk so we can exchange tips!
Re: Pokemon UU Tournament Concensus - beep beep diglett - 03-29-2010
i have like a shitload of UU ev trained pokemon if anyone wants em, dont want to do tourneys anymore :X
Re: Pokemon UU Tournament Concensus - Chief - 03-29-2010
sponson
when you make the giant post for the tourney, give it to me so it can go in the (UN)Official Pokemon thread so there isn't 5 Pokemon threads. Thanks.
Re: Pokemon UU Tournament Concensus - Vandamguy - 03-29-2010
(03-29-2010, 04:36 PM)Dr. House link Wrote: sponsonagreed , this forum needs less pokemanz
when you make the giant post for the tourney, give it to me so it can go in the (UN)Official Pokemon thread so there isn't 5 Pokemon threads. Thanks.
*caff sighs*
Re: Pokemon UU Tournament Concensus - Professor Funbucks - 03-29-2010
(03-29-2010, 06:53 PM)Vandamguy link Wrote: [quote author=Dr. House link=topic=4408.msg144060#msg144060 date=1269898581]agreed , this forum needs less pokemanz
sponson
when you make the giant post for the tourney, give it to me so it can go in the (UN)Official Pokemon thread so there isn't 5 Pokemon threads. Thanks.
*caff sighs*
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Re: Pokemon UU Tournament Concensus - CaffeinePowered - 03-29-2010
Oh that vandam
Re: Pokemon UU Tournament Concensus - HeK - 03-29-2010
(03-29-2010, 09:52 PM)Caffeine link Wrote: Oh that vandam
I see what you did there...
Re: Pokemon UU Tournament Concensus - Vandamguy - 03-29-2010
(03-29-2010, 09:52 PM)Caffeine link Wrote: classic vandam
Re: Pokemon UU Tournament Concensus - Sponson - 03-30-2010
In the world of competitive pokemon battling, pokemon are separated into tiers based on their stats, move pool, and usage.
Most legendaries go into the Uber tier, because putting them any where else would destroy the meta-game. Groudon and Kyogre for example. Though pokemon such as Garchomp and Wobuffet go into this category as well.
Pokemon with good stats and movepools usually go into the OU (over used) tier, such as gyarados, gengar, and jolteon. It changes periodically due to OU meta-game counters either kicking OU pokemon out or putting more in. For example Smeargle used to be NU/UU, but now has a spot as OU because of its ability to have a fantastic movepool (read: all of them).
There is a sub-category called BL (borderline) where some pokemon haven't yet been placed into OU or UU. BL pokemon are allowed in this UU tourny, as pokemon like abomasnow and gallade aren't exactly breaking in a UU environment. However Cresselia and Porygon-Z used to be OU (And Cresslia was on the border of becoming Uber) and were dropped to UU due to them simply being under-used recently. This may have an adverse effect in the UU environment so I am cutting them out on the account of them being untested.
UU is the tier right below OU, where pokemon like Blaziken, Venasaur, and Blastoise reside. The pokemon usually sit there because they are super-ceded by pokemon who do the same thing but better.
Blaziken for example is super-ceded by Infernape, while Blastoise by Gyaradose/Vaporeon. This is our tournament tier, any pokemon from this tier and below can be used.
NU is never used because they either plain suck, or in cases like Slaking (who has amazing stats but a rather crippling ability), are easily countered or unpopular. Pokemon like Skiploom, Articuno (yes, even legendaries can be NU), Beedrill and others. Generally NU pokemon just get the snot kicked out of them when placed in an OU tier environment, but can become rather viable in a UU team, so don't discount them.
Smogon.com has a bunch more info so read up.
Also to note: EV training is highly recommended, as an EV trained pokemon will easily crush a non-trained pokemon. If you're unfamiliar there is a great site. Pokemon EV Training Site Finder
Pokemon auto-level to 100 in a wifi match, so you only have to worry about EV's, move set, evolution, and natures (and IVs if you're into that).
If we can get a minimum of 8 people for this tournament that would be ace. PM me if you're interested and I can concoct a bracket these next few weeks. But get goin on training! I will try to offer a prize if I can.
School is out for me in a month, so I will most likely have lots of time then to start the tournament, sometime mid-may.
Re: Pokemon UU Tournament Concensus - Vongore - 03-30-2010
I know some legendaries are considered to be NU, but can we leave them out of the tournament? It'll somehow break the charm of using Pokemon people wouldn't use or consider on their teams
Also they look badass and i want a Caterpie-like only tourney
Re: Pokemon UU Tournament Concensus - Sponson - 03-30-2010
(03-30-2010, 01:02 PM)Vongore link Wrote: I know some legendaries are considered to be NU, but can we leave them out of the tournament? It'll somehow break the charm of using Pokemon people wouldn't use or consider on their teams
Also they look badass and i want a Caterpie-like only tourney
Negatory, I can't just start removing pokemon because they break the "charm", since that tends to be pretty subjective considering I find them to be somewhat charming. "Legendary" is a misleading name anyway, and are infact a lot less efficient than pokemon you can breed.
Banning legendaries because they're legendary isn't in my best interest for this. It would be like saying "Lets ban spiritomb because you only get one in the game".
Also these official clauses just in:
Pokemon Allowed: BL and under, minus Cresslia and Porygon-Z for reasons listed in other post.
Evasion Clause Active
  Moves that boost evasion (i.e. Double Team and Minimize) are not allowed.
Freeze Clause Active
  Two or more Pokémon on a team cannot be frozen at the same time.
Sleep Clause Active
  Two or more Pokémon on a team cannot be asleep at the same time. Self-induce sleep via rest does not activate Sleep Clause.
OHKO Clause Inactive
  One-Hit KO moves are not allowed.
Species Clause Active
  Two or more of the same Pokémon may not be used on the same team.
Self KO Clause Active
  If both players have only one Pokémon left, moves which KO both the user and the opponent are not allowed (e.g. Explosion, Destiny Bond). If recoil damage would cause a tie, Self KO Clause does not activate, and the player who last attacked is the winner.
Item Clause Inactive
  All Pokémon on a team must hold different items. This is not a standard clause in competitive play, but it is used in Nintendo tournaments.
Re: Pokemon UU Tournament Concensus - Duck, Duck, Goose - 04-03-2010
I was about to say, Porygon-Z is a beast for Special Attack... I'd love to use mine.
Dumbest tier drop ever imo.