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Re: Art - Sponson - 10-20-2010
Quote:He's actually kind of got you there, Sponson. Smut does not necessarily equal art, and yet the human form in any engagement can be artful. Do you see the difference?You present a statement to me thats actually pretty basic and then ask for confirmation if I understood what you were talking about. You assume that I apparently have no grasp on subjectivity ("but it won't be art to everyone" ring a bell?) despite how common knowledge it is (pst. even kids know art is subjective). I don't know about you, but either you think I'm retarded since you're pretty much telling me what people learn in like 2nd grade and then ask if I understand it. Either that or you're just really condescending. Sorry, no way around that. Unless you somehow didn't mean any of that at all and the entire post was just a major fluke where it was just made out to seem like you were condescending but in reality wasn't at all ever.
Lastly, don't think for one second I give a flying rats ass about if you or anyone else likes my art, or if you even consider it art or not or whatever bullshit neutral position you purport. I already told you that the classification is entirely useless - Marcel Duchamp kind of solved that around 80 years ago, but what do I know right? Also, it would be extremely vain to base how much I like someone or forgive someone due to how much they like my work. "Oh you really like my work so I guess I'll forgive you more than that other guy." Uh huh, yeah. Am I suppose to feel better if you like my stuff? Am I suppose to rescend my statement? I don't understand. Maybe you do though, but I'll skip on the lesson for now.
I've said what I needed to, necessary or not, but two paragraphs is more than enough to explain why I'm raging hard inside, even if it wasn't entirely civil, but nothing pisses me off more than some snarky insult - "Yeah its kind of there but you can't really call me on that" bullshit. I don't go flying off the wall for every little transgression, but fuck me if I didn't analyze your statement and try to find a non-insulting manner, my default mode isn't exact scanning for insults: engaging battle mode. At this point it doesn't even matter, you can either think I'm some huge dick wad who likes to insult people for no reason or whatever. But I'm just sick of shit, and I simply stopped tolerating it because why bother.
Quote:Don't worry Luin, he was referring to me. You didn't have any negative impact on the discussion, so don't think it's your fault.And there he goes, trolling again. Haha you almost got me there, you should put another notch on your belt mister, you're pretty good.
Re: Art - KarthXLR - 10-20-2010
Jeeze guys, just calm down or stop posting. Every post all of you people make just makes each other madder, whether or not you're trying to.
Re: Art - [SiN] Merc - 10-20-2010
(10-20-2010, 12:24 AM)Karth link Wrote: Jeeze guys, just calm down or stop posting. Every post all of you people make just makes each other madder, whether or not you're trying to.
I'll agree with you Karth, I'mma just let this topic be for a bit.
But lastly:
(10-20-2010, 12:11 AM)Sponson link Wrote:Quote:Don't worry Luin, he was referring to me. You didn't have any negative impact on the discussion, so don't think it's your fault.And there he goes, trolling again. Haha you almost got me there, you should put another notch on your belt mister, you're pretty good.
I wasn't trolling there, sir. When I troll, it's me saying stupid stuff in general to provoke a reaction/discussion that derails a topic into an interesting conversation, not to piss in everyone's cheerios and do verbal assaults on a person. I'm not the sorta fella who tries to split the a group into an actual serious fight. But yeah Sponson, I'm sorry if you misunderstood my position in the first place, perhaps I didn't word it correctly, or maybe you misread it. Take it easy bro, no hard feelings from my end.
Re: Art - Didzo - 10-20-2010
And, I quote:
(10-19-2010, 03:54 PM)Didzo link Wrote: .....
Re: Art - CaffeinePowered - 10-20-2010
(10-20-2010, 12:24 AM)Karth link Wrote: Jeeze guys, just calm down or stop posting. Every post all of you people make just makes each other madder, whether or not you're trying to.
This, I've never seen some statements so woefully misunderstood by people in a while :-\
Re: Art - backfire - 10-20-2010
This is probably the most dramatic art thread I've ever seen. I'm just skimming through and seeing more 3-4 paragraph posts than actual pictures... I don't even care to read it since my attention span isn't that long and it probably means nothing anyways. So what I do care about...
how much for that minish cap? I want it ;D
Re: Art - CaffeinePowered - 10-20-2010
(10-20-2010, 05:32 AM)backfire link Wrote: how much for that minish cap? I want it ;D
Sorry, not for sale, at least...not now anyway, its my GM'ing capÂ
Re: Art - Luinbariel - 10-20-2010
(10-20-2010, 12:11 AM)Sponson link Wrote: Sorry, no way around that. Unless you somehow didn't mean any of that at all and the entire post was just a major fluke where it was just made out to seem like you were condescending but in reality wasn't at all ever.
That is what I was trying to say. I did not believe you couldn't understand it, didn't think you're stupid. I know that no matter what I say at this point won't matter, but I guess I'll just say it anyway and then go.
I didn't think about what I typed at all, it would seem. The "do you see the difference" was not added because I didn't think you could. It was just added. Looking back at it now, I can't even figure out why I put it there. But I won't back peddle more or anything like that. I said what I said and no matter what I intended, the damage is already done.
Be as upset as you want. I deserve it anyway.
Re: Art - Geoff - 10-20-2010
![[Image: cannonballdookie.gif]](http://dl.dropbox.com/u/119011/LULZ/cannonballdookie.gif)
Re: Art - Reevesith - 10-20-2010
o.o; what the..
http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/6961/uhhhh.png
@3@ tryin to pick my brain for ideas, after best buy's "We fucked up so sucks to be you" & one Fallout NV CE @3@
Re: Art - Live-Free-Or-Pie - 10-20-2010
![[Image: 250px-Mona_Lisa.jpeg]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/85/Mona_Lisa.jpeg/250px-Mona_Lisa.jpeg)
Relevant?
Re: Art - KarthXLR - 10-20-2010
(10-20-2010, 05:53 PM)Live-Free-Or-Pie link Wrote:This looks shopped. I can tell by the pixels and from seeing quite a few shops in my time.
Relevant?
Re: Art - Duck, Duck, Goose - 10-21-2010
![[Image: che_guevara_tag_by_nitrous_0xide-d316pgv.jpg]](http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/294/5/c/che_guevara_tag_by_nitrous_0xide-d316pgv.jpg)
Re: Art - Geoff - 10-21-2010
nino blanco
Re: Art - Versus - 10-21-2010
(10-21-2010, 03:03 PM)geoff link Wrote: nino blanco
Re: Art - rumsfald - 10-21-2010
1) this thread is now performance art.
2) ya'll suck for making sponson take down his pics before I had the chance to see them. He's been sharing his passion here for a while, and while I don't love everything he does, I appreciate the fact that he has the talent to do it and the trust to share it.
3) if he provoked an emotional reaction in you, it's art. you been moved, you been had.
4) it's an Antrios.
Re: Art - CaffeinePowered - 10-21-2010
(10-21-2010, 08:37 PM)rumsfald link Wrote: 1) this thread is now performance art.
2) ya'll suck for making sponson take down his pics before I had the chance to see them. He's been sharing his passion here for a while, and while I don't love everything he does, I appreciate the fact that he has the talent to do it and the trust to share it.
3) if he provoked an emotional reaction in you, it's art. you been moved, you been had.
4) it's an Antrios.
Actually, I think sponson broke his site, since its all still there - http://www.sponsonstudios.com/
if you delete the /blog/ in the URL it works just fine
Re: Art - k0ala - 10-21-2010
Yes please, moar Sponson, moar Reevesith.
Re: Art - Didzo - 10-21-2010
(10-21-2010, 08:37 PM)rumsfald link Wrote: 1) this thread is now performance art.
You are all part of my performance art piece.
Discuss.
Re: Art - beep beep diglett - 10-22-2010
(10-21-2010, 08:37 PM)rumsfald link Wrote: 3) if he provoked an emotional reaction in you, it's art. you been moved, you been had.
this is what i was gonna say, but i didnt for fear of responses along the lines of "what about MURDER and HITLER!!!!"
and yeah more art less bickering please