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Re: Ping Help - Tricoden - 09-28-2008
Port forwarding Steam and TF2 hmmm?
How can you check their port numbers? >_>
Re: Ping Help - Master Shake - 09-28-2008
(09-28-2008, 04:53 PM)ainmosni link Wrote: [quote author=J-Master link=topic=1492.msg41645#msg41645 date=1222614576]
Seriously, don't use wireless. Wired is like three times faster or something. It's usually 40 mbs for wireless, compared to 100mbs wired. That's what it is for me at least. I don't really know where those numbers come from either, because I don't know a single person getting speeds even close to 40mbs, and certainly not 100.
I think you're confusing Megabytes and Megabits... Network speeds are usually described in bits instead of bytes and there are 8 bits into one byte so the theoretical maximum speed of a 100 mbit connection is 12.5 mbyte... That is without overhead from TCP/IP off course so that speed will be a bit lower in practice...
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Oh snap, I never knew that. That makes sense too. Thanks Ain!
Re: Ping Help - Aerox - 09-28-2008
Ports are all forwarded properly.
A weird thing that I noticed that I've never seen before is that when a game starts or a new map loads, my ping starts at 40. Then it steadily climbs as people join and the game starts until it hits 100-110.
It's getting really frustrating, because it's throwing my sniping game off completely.
I ran tracert, this is what I got. I don't know what it means, so I can't interpret it. I'm assuming the timeout on #7 is bad.
tracert 8.12.20.112
Tracing route to 8.12.20.112 over a maximum of 30 hops
 1  3 ms  1 ms  1 ms Gunzler [192.168.16.1]
 2  32 ms  8 ms  18 ms cpe-76-166-192-1.socal.res.rr.com [76.166.192.1]
 3  10 ms  12 ms  30 ms 76.167.15.117
 4  10 ms  11 ms  21 ms cpe-76-167-6-93.socal.res.rr.com [76.167.6.93]
 5  36 ms  50 ms  23 ms tge9-3.lamdca1-swt1.socal.rr.com [76.167.2.52]
 6  *   27 ms  36 ms tge4-0-0.lsanca1-rtr1.socal.rr.com [76.167.2.56]
 7  *    *    *  Request timed out.
 8  24 ms  23 ms  44 ms te-1-3.car1.Tustin1.Level3.net [4.79.140.37]
 9  22 ms  20 ms  37 ms ae-2-3.bar1.Tustin1.Level3.net [4.69.132.218]
10  56 ms  33 ms  38 ms ae-0-11.bar2.Tustin1.Level3.net [4.69.136.198]
11  83 ms  87 ms  72 ms ae-10-10.ebr1.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.69.136.206]
12  62 ms  53 ms  86 ms ae-81-81.csw3.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.69.136.130]
13  97 ms  68 ms  53 ms ae-82-82.ebr2.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.69.136.145]
14 119 ms  69 ms 108 ms ae-2.ebr1.Denver1.Level3.net [4.69.132.105]
15  82 ms  73 ms  87 ms ae-1-100.ebr2.Denver1.Level3.net [4.69.132.38]
16  91 ms 107 ms  92 ms ae-3.ebr1.Chicago2.Level3.net [4.69.132.62]
17 116 ms 125 ms  93 ms ae-6.ebr1.Chicago1.Level3.net [4.69.140.189]
18 127 ms  95 ms 112 ms ge-9-0.ipcolo1.Chicago1.Level3.net [4.68.101.10]
19  93 ms  93 ms 106 ms 8.12.20.112
Trace complete.
Re: Ping Help - Versus - 09-28-2008
(09-28-2008, 04:53 PM)ainmosni link Wrote: [quote author=J-Master link=topic=1492.msg41645#msg41645 date=1222614576]
Seriously, don't use wireless. Wired is like three times faster or something. It's usually 40 mbs for wireless, compared to 100mbs wired. That's what it is for me at least. I don't really know where those numbers come from either, because I don't know a single person getting speeds even close to 40mbs, and certainly not 100.
I think you're confusing Megabytes and Megabits... Network speeds are usually described in bits instead of bytes and there are 8 bits into one byte so the theoretical maximum speed of a 100 mbit connection is 12.5 mbyte... That is without overhead from TCP/IP off course so that speed will be a bit lower in practice...
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We have a 6mb/s connection, yet my dad gets mad when he only gets around 700-725 KB/s download...I have to explain this to him at least once every couple weeks...
Re: Ping Help - copulatingduck - 09-28-2008
(09-28-2008, 07:09 PM)Eschatos link Wrote: Did you Port Forward Steam and TF2?
Ummmm, you shouldn't have to forward ports to play TF2... Just if you want to host a server I thought.
Re: Ping Help - Budr - 09-29-2008
(09-28-2008, 10:33 PM)CopulatingDuck link Wrote: Ummmm, you shouldn't have to forward ports to play TF2... Just if you want to host a server I thought.
Certain routers have trouble. Mine will regularly hit time out disconnections if not forwarded.
Re: Ping Help - at0m - 09-29-2008
(09-27-2008, 11:14 PM)Aerox link Wrote: So, I have the new computer up.  Everything is awesome, it's running great and I'm getting like 100+ FPS most of the time. The only problem I'm having is that this computer seems to have a higher ping than my old laptop did; I used to get around 70ish on the main server, now I'm pinging above 100. It's not a HUGE deal, since it's still in a relatively reasonable range, but I'm wondering if there's anything I can do to lower it. I tried opening a QoS on the router but it didn't really change anything. I'm not sure why this is happening since nothing's changed about my internet connection; I'm assuming it's something with Vista, but I'm not sure what.Stop downloading so much porn.
Especially if you have a dlink router, those things are crap.
Re: Ping Help - Aerox - 09-29-2008
Obviously I'm turning all my downloads/programs off when I'm playing Steam, and the router is the same as it was when I was using my laptop.
I really can't figure this out -- it's driving me crazy.
Re: Ping Help - KarthXLR - 09-30-2008
(09-29-2008, 11:11 AM)at0m link Wrote: [quote author=Aerox link=topic=1492.msg41605#msg41605 date=1222575270]Stop downloading so much porn.
So, I have the new computer up.  Everything is awesome, it's running great and I'm getting like 100+ FPS most of the time. The only problem I'm having is that this computer seems to have a higher ping than my old laptop did; I used to get around 70ish on the main server, now I'm pinging above 100. It's not a HUGE deal, since it's still in a relatively reasonable range, but I'm wondering if there's anything I can do to lower it. I tried opening a QoS on the router but it didn't really change anything. I'm not sure why this is happening since nothing's changed about my internet connection; I'm assuming it's something with Vista, but I'm not sure what.
Especially if you have a dlink router, those things are crap.
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....oh crap.
Re: Ping Help - ToiletDuck - 09-30-2008
(09-29-2008, 11:34 AM)Aerox link Wrote: Obviously I'm turning all my downloads/programs off when I'm playing Steam, and the router is the same as it was when I was using my laptop.
I really can't figure this out -- it's driving me crazy.
try plugging directly into the modem instead? i dunno, anything's possible...
Re: Ping Help - zaneyard - 09-30-2008
(09-28-2008, 09:52 PM)Aerox link Wrote: Ports are all forwarded properly.seems like there are a few bottlenecks in between you and the server 8.12.20.112 (specifically between hop 14 and 18)
A weird thing that I noticed that I've never seen before is that when a game starts or a new map loads, my ping starts at 40. Then it steadily climbs as people join and the game starts until it hits 100-110.
It's getting really frustrating, because it's throwing my sniping game off completely.
I ran tracert, this is what I got. I don't know what it means, so I can't interpret it. I'm assuming the timeout on #7 is bad.
tracert 8.12.20.112
Tracing route to 8.12.20.112 over a maximum of 30 hops
 1   3 ms   1 ms   1 ms Gunzler [192.168.16.1]
 2  32 ms   8 ms  18 ms cpe-76-166-192-1.socal.res.rr.com [76.166.192.1]
 3  10 ms  12 ms  30 ms 76.167.15.117
 4  10 ms  11 ms  21 ms cpe-76-167-6-93.socal.res.rr.com [76.167.6.93]
 5  36 ms  50 ms  23 ms tge9-3.lamdca1-swt1.socal.rr.com [76.167.2.52]
 6   *    27 ms  36 ms tge4-0-0.lsanca1-rtr1.socal.rr.com [76.167.2.56]
 7   *    *    *   Request timed out.
 8  24 ms  23 ms  44 ms te-1-3.car1.Tustin1.Level3.net [4.79.140.37]
 9  22 ms  20 ms  37 ms ae-2-3.bar1.Tustin1.Level3.net [4.69.132.218]
10  56 ms  33 ms  38 ms ae-0-11.bar2.Tustin1.Level3.net [4.69.136.198]
11  83 ms  87 ms  72 ms ae-10-10.ebr1.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.69.136.206]
12  62 ms  53 ms  86 ms ae-81-81.csw3.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.69.136.130]
13  97 ms  68 ms  53 ms ae-82-82.ebr2.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.69.136.145]
14  119 ms  69 ms  108 ms ae-2.ebr1.Denver1.Level3.net [4.69.132.105]
15  82 ms  73 ms  87 ms ae-1-100.ebr2.Denver1.Level3.net [4.69.132.38]
16  91 ms  107 ms  92 ms ae-3.ebr1.Chicago2.Level3.net [4.69.132.62]
17  116 ms  125 ms  93 ms ae-6.ebr1.Chicago1.Level3.net [4.69.140.189]
18  127 ms  95 ms  112 ms ge-9-0.ipcolo1.Chicago1.Level3.net [4.68.101.10]
19  93 ms  93 ms  106 ms 8.12.20.112
Trace complete.
i dont think anything on your end is the problem
wireless g is 54 mb/s
you will never get close to that in download speed prlly
the bigger problem with wireless is dropped packets
you will almost never see dropped packets on a wired connection unless you run your power bundled with your data.
my tracert
Tracing route to 8.12.20.112 over a maximum of 30 hops
 1   2 ms  <1 ms  <1 ms 192.168.1.1
 2   8 ms  22 ms   6 ms 73.112.0.1
 3   9 ms   7 ms   6 ms fe-4-1-sr01.manitowoc.wi.minn.comcast.net [68.87
.179.1]
 4  25 ms  24 ms  18 ms 68.87.174.253
 5  23 ms  20 ms  19 ms te-0-4-0-2-ar03.roseville.mn.minn.comcast.net [6
8.86.91.138]
 6  29 ms  27 ms  28 ms te-0-2-0-4-cr01.chicago.il.ibone.comcast.net [68
.86.91.137]
 7  30 ms  28 ms  35 ms xe-9-0-0.edge1.Chicago2.Level3.net [4.71.248.33]
 8  29 ms  31 ms  27 ms vlan51.ebr1.Chicago2.Level3.net [4.69.138.158]
 9  31 ms  34 ms  31 ms ae-6.ebr1.Chicago1.Level3.net [4.69.140.189]
10  31 ms  30 ms  30 ms ge-9-1.ipcolo1.Chicago1.Level3.net [4.68.101.74]
11  30 ms  31 ms  34 ms 8.12.20.112
Trace complete.
as you can see, the beginning is about the same, its in the middle that are all your hops from your ISP and such.
you should run this
ping -t 192.168.16.1 (im assuming is your access point or wireless router)
from where you normally game, etc.
see how many pings are low counts and how many are time outs/ high counts
if you get a lot of time outs, then you need to consider wiring up for high bandwidth stuff.
to stop the pings hold control and press c
Re: Ping Help - Aerox - 10-01-2008
Pinging the router returns <1ms 100% of the time.
I guess it's just this internet then. Oh well, hopefully they'll fix it soon.
Re: Ping Help - zaneyard - 10-01-2008
(10-01-2008, 12:39 AM)Aerox link Wrote: Pinging the router returns <1ms 100% of the time.maybe try the trace at different times of the day, its possible that you preformed the test at a high traffic time, or something happened that brought a path down
I guess it's just this internet then. Oh well, hopefully they'll fix it soon.
shit happens, my whole city was experiencing very slow download for about a day a couple weeks ago...