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Re: please respect others - Scary Womanizing Pig Mask - 07-13-2009

(07-13-2009, 03:35 PM)Pokemon Trainer Blues link Wrote: [quote author=Scary Womanizing Pig Mask link=topic=3267.msg97285#msg97285 date=1247517239]
[quote author=Pokemon Trainer Blues link=topic=3267.msg97274#msg97274 date=1247516648]
On a semi-related note, the other afternoon someone called Valentine a bitch and then acted like a dick to her/other people for like 2 minutes, and I said "Shut your mouth you fucking faggot". I was then muted, and after retrying was told it was because I said "faggot".

Are we fucking 12? A curse word/insult is just that in the adult world, there isn't some magical hierarchy where we can say ass but not THE EFF WERD. Don't get started on discrimination either, because calling someone gay, a lifestyle, is far different from racial obscenities, and it is quite apparent when someone is insulting someone for being gay, or just insulting them period.

I FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF'd at that, just sayin'.

Whether you meant it to be offensive (which you didn't) or not, or even whether you consider it to be so or not, quite a few people would deem it such. Dunn know if you need to be muted over that instance, but it's down in the server rules so after being informed of such a muting is fair game. But seriously? It's one of like 3 words you can't say on it, is it really worth making a big of a deal over?
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Is it worth making a big deal over when some shitface gets to run his mouth to people and I get muted with no warning for telling him to shut the fuck up? Yes it is. It would also be less of an issue if half of us didn't call each other names from that to god knows what else on a daily basis. Be consistent or don't do anything at all, hypocrisy on that level pisses me off. We going to start muting people every time someone kills them and they say "AW THAT WAS GAY"?
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While I agree with you, that guy should have been muted, there's a difference between saying "that so gay" (which I still feel is pretty Tongue and tacky but I digress) and outright calling someone a faggot.


Re: please respect others - Blues - 07-13-2009

(07-13-2009, 03:41 PM)Scary Womanizing Pig Mask link Wrote: [quote author=Pokemon Trainer Blues link=topic=3267.msg97287#msg97287 date=1247517311]
[quote author=Scary Womanizing Pig Mask link=topic=3267.msg97285#msg97285 date=1247517239]
[quote author=Pokemon Trainer Blues link=topic=3267.msg97274#msg97274 date=1247516648]
On a semi-related note, the other afternoon someone called Valentine a bitch and then acted like a dick to her/other people for like 2 minutes, and I said "Shut your mouth you fucking faggot". I was then muted, and after retrying was told it was because I said "faggot".

Are we fucking 12? A curse word/insult is just that in the adult world, there isn't some magical hierarchy where we can say ass but not THE EFF WERD. Don't get started on discrimination either, because calling someone gay, a lifestyle, is far different from racial obscenities, and it is quite apparent when someone is insulting someone for being gay, or just insulting them period.

I FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF'd at that, just sayin'.

Whether you meant it to be offensive (which you didn't) or not, or even whether you consider it to be so or not, quite a few people would deem it such. Dunn know if you need to be muted over that instance, but it's down in the server rules so after being informed of such a muting is fair game. But seriously? It's one of like 3 words you can't say on it, is it really worth making a big of a deal over?
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Is it worth making a big deal over when some shitface gets to run his mouth to people and I get muted with no warning for telling him to shut the fuck up? Yes it is. It would also be less of an issue if half of us didn't call each other names from that to god knows what else on a daily basis. Be consistent or don't do anything at all, hypocrisy on that level pisses me off. We going to start muting people every time someone kills them and they say "AW THAT WAS GAY"?
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While I agree with you, that guy should have been muted, there's a difference between saying "that so gay" (which I still feel is pretty Tongue and tacky but I digress) and outright calling someone a faggot.
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There really isn't, english is filled with hundreds of homonyms, heteronyms, and slang words that are based on intention. While getting upset over someone saying "that's gay" is stupid, that should bring light to how stupid it is to get upset at someone for saying faggot when they're not directing it at gays and using it as a general insult. etc. etc.

This was still more directed at the specific incident as I am pointing out that respect needs to be enforced for everyone.


Re: please respect others - zaneyard - 07-13-2009

(07-13-2009, 03:35 PM)Pokemon Trainer Blues link Wrote: [quote author=Scary Womanizing Pig Mask link=topic=3267.msg97285#msg97285 date=1247517239]
[quote author=Pokemon Trainer Blues link=topic=3267.msg97274#msg97274 date=1247516648]
On a semi-related note, the other afternoon someone called Valentine a bitch and then acted like a dick to her/other people for like 2 minutes, and I said "Shut your mouth you fucking faggot". I was then muted, and after retrying was told it was because I said "faggot".

Are we fucking 12? A curse word/insult is just that in the adult world, there isn't some magical hierarchy where we can say ass but not THE EFF WERD. Don't get started on discrimination either, because calling someone gay, a lifestyle, is far different from racial obscenities, and it is quite apparent when someone is insulting someone for being gay, or just insulting them period.

I FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF'd at that, just sayin'.

Whether you meant it to be offensive (which you didn't) or not, or even whether you consider it to be so or not, quite a few people would deem it such. Dunn know if you need to be muted over that instance, but it's down in the server rules so after being informed of such a muting is fair game. But seriously? It's one of like 3 words you can't say on it, is it really worth making a big of a deal over?
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Is it worth making a big deal over when some shitface gets to run his mouth to people and I get muted with no warning for telling him to shut the fuck up? Yes it is. It would also be less of an issue if half of us didn't call each other names from that to god knows what else on a daily basis. Be consistent or don't do anything at all, hypocrisy on that level pisses me off. We going to start muting people every time someone kills them and they say "AW THAT WAS GAY"?
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the guy that was being an asshole should have been given a spanking, and blues should have been given a fair warning

blues, just please don't say that word, i find it offensive.


Re: please respect others - Valentine Wiggin - 07-13-2009

last night someone was muted for talking about my body parts.  i think it involved "mooseknuckle" ahaha


Re: please respect others - Fail Medic - 07-13-2009

Blues, you had already been warned for screaming into the mic not five minutes prior; anyone, feel free to dispute me on that.  I believe I have witnesses.  Anyway, then you said "faggot" on voice.  Because you had already screamed and gotten a warning, I just up and muted you as a knee-jerk reaction.

I'm adamant on not tolerating "faggot" , "nigger", "kike", "spic", and other words in that realm.  I feel no need to defend that stance since I believe it falls squarely under the "don't be a dick" rule. 

I did hear someone call Valentine a "bitch", and then I heard her say, "Don't call me that."  I didn't react to it or that individual because I didn't think it needed anyone to do anything.  I would accept being criticized for not reacting to that.  However, I did not hear anything else from that person whoever he was besides that.  If there was a lot more than just the bitch remark, I was inattentive and there's no excuse for that.

If you have a problem with me slapping mute on you when there was other more pressing issues I should have addressed, then petition to get my admin rights stripped.  I won't shed a tear.  It's probably a long time coming anyway since I only play consistently on Fridays and I'm a shitty admin at any other time.  As obviously evidenced by this mess.

... I still stand by my actions.  That's it.


Re: please respect others - Dave - 07-13-2009

(07-13-2009, 05:15 PM)Fail Medic link Wrote: Blues, you had already been warned for screaming into the mic not five minutes prior; anyone, feel free to dispute me on that.  I believe I have witnesses.  Anyway, then you said "faggot" on voice.  Because you had already screamed and gotten a warning, I just up and muted you as a knee-jerk reaction.

I'm adamant on not tolerating "faggot" , "nigger", "kike", "spic", and other words in that realm.  I feel no need to defend that stance since I believe it falls squarely under the "don't be a dick" rule. 

I did hear someone call Valentine a "bitch", and then I heard her say, "Don't call me that."  I didn't react to it or that individual because I didn't think it needed anyone to do anything.  I would accept being criticized for not reacting to that.  However, I did not hear anything else from that person whoever he was besides that.  If there was a lot more than just the bitch remark, I was inattentive and there's no excuse for that.

If you have a problem with me slapping mute on you when there was other more pressing issues I should have addressed, then petition to get my admin rights stripped.  I won't shed a tear.  It's probably a long time coming anyway since I only play consistently on Fridays and I'm a shitty admin at any other time.  As obviously evidenced by this mess.

... I still stand by my actions.  That's it.


fail, shut up. its blues, hes used to being muted.

man up, we love your administrating.


Re: please respect others - Fail Medic - 07-13-2009

(07-13-2009, 05:30 PM)Dave link Wrote: fail, shut up. its blues, hes used to being muted.

man up, we love your administrating.

Doesn't change the fact that I didn't and maybe should have acted on someone that was bothering other players.


Re: please respect others - Valentine Wiggin - 07-13-2009

fail, it's no big deal.  i was standing on a teleporter waiting to be whisked away when some punk came up and knocked me off and took it.  i probably called him an ass or something jokingly like when people steal my metal, he got bent and called me a bitch and some other stuff.  blues was just taking up for me <3


Re: please respect others - Professor Funbucks - 07-13-2009

(07-13-2009, 05:57 PM)Valentine Wiggin link Wrote: fail, it's no big deal.  i was standing on a teleporter waiting to be whisked away when some punk came up and knocked me off and took it.  i probably called him an ass or something jokingly like when people steal my metal, he got bent and called me a bitch and some other stuff.  blues was just taking up for me <3

WHATS THE DEAL WITH TELEPORTERS, YOU STAND ON EM FOR LIKE A GOOD MINUTE, and SOME SCOUT JUST PUSHES YOU RIGHT OFF, BECAUSE HE TOTALLY NEEDS IT


OH WAIT



Re: please respect others - Blues - 07-13-2009

(07-13-2009, 05:15 PM)Fail Medic link Wrote: Blues, you had already been warned for screaming into the mic not five minutes prior; anyone, feel free to dispute me on that.  I believe I have witnesses.  Anyway, then you said "faggot" on voice.  Because you had already screamed and gotten a warning, I just up and muted you as a knee-jerk reaction.

I'm adamant on not tolerating "faggot" , "nigger", "kike", "spic", and other words in that realm.  I feel no need to defend that stance since I believe it falls squarely under the "don't be a dick" rule. 

I did hear someone call Valentine a "bitch", and then I heard her say, "Don't call me that."  I didn't react to it or that individual because I didn't think it needed anyone to do anything.  I would accept being criticized for not reacting to that.  However, I did not hear anything else from that person whoever he was besides that.  If there was a lot more than just the bitch remark, I was inattentive and there's no excuse for that.

If you have a problem with me slapping mute on you when there was other more pressing issues I should have addressed, then petition to get my admin rights stripped.  I won't shed a tear.  It's probably a long time coming anyway since I only play consistently on Fridays and I'm a shitty admin at any other time.  As obviously evidenced by this mess.

... I still stand by my actions.  That's it.
ysoemo, I'm just pointing out whoever it was needed to pay more attention and not go favorites on the server. Only admins I "file complaint" about are the ones I see consistently abusing their power or just going about things completely inappropriately, i.e. muting or kicking players with no reasons or warnings, etc. Since the only one I ever had to complain that badly about no longer has admin, well.

I never heard you say anything about screaming, probably because the entire server was talking nonstop and probably the same reason you didn't hear him continuing after calling her names.

Regardless, I make no promises I won't stop using the word faggot, it's ingrained from childhood the same way as those people who can't go a sentence without using the word fuck. Say something about it if it actually bothers you when I'm playing and I'll put extra effort into paying attention to it, but don't get pissy with me when it pops out as an unthought reaction. I hate hanging out with gays like Honest, so obviously I'm not discriminating


Re: please respect others - Dave - 07-13-2009

(07-13-2009, 05:50 PM)Fail Medic link Wrote: [quote author=Dave link=topic=3267.msg97337#msg97337 date=1247524230]
fail, shut up. its blues, hes used to being muted.

man up, we love your administrating.

Doesn't change the fact that I didn't and maybe should have acted on someone that was bothering other players.
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your not omnipitent fail

everyone but me is sure to make mistakes.


Re: please respect others - Benito Mussolini - 07-13-2009

(07-13-2009, 05:15 PM)Fail Medic link Wrote: I'm adamant on not tolerating "faggot" , "nigger", "kike", "spic", and other words in that realm.  I feel no need to defend that stance since I believe it falls squarely under the "don't be a dick" rule. 

What are those 2 words? I never heard them...


Re: please respect others - at0m - 07-13-2009

(07-13-2009, 07:20 PM)Benito Mussolini link Wrote: [quote author=Fail Medic link=topic=3267.msg97332#msg97332 date=1247523350]
I'm adamant on not tolerating "faggot" , "nigger", "kike", "spic", and other words in that realm.  I feel no need to defend that stance since I believe it falls squarely under the "don't be a dick" rule. 

What are those 2 words? I never heard them...
[/quote]racial slurs for jewish person and mexican (or more generally, hispanic person), respectively.


Re: please respect others - Scary Womanizing Pig Mask - 07-13-2009

(07-13-2009, 07:20 PM)Benito Mussolini link Wrote: [quote author=Fail Medic link=topic=3267.msg97332#msg97332 date=1247523350]
I'm adamant on not tolerating "faggot" , "nigger", "kike", "spic", and other words in that realm.  I feel no need to defend that stance since I believe it falls squarely under the "don't be a dick" rule. 

What are those 2 words? I never heard them...
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Kike is for Jews and Spic is for Hispanics

[edit]Beaten by atom[/edit]


Re: please respect others - Benito Mussolini - 07-13-2009

(07-13-2009, 07:24 PM)Scary Womanizing Pig Mask link Wrote: [quote author=Benito Mussolini link=topic=3267.msg97382#msg97382 date=1247530815]
[quote author=Fail Medic link=topic=3267.msg97332#msg97332 date=1247523350]
I'm adamant on not tolerating "faggot" , "nigger", "kike", "spic", and other words in that realm.  I feel no need to defend that stance since I believe it falls squarely under the "don't be a dick" rule. 

What are those 2 words? I never heard them...
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Kike is for Jews and Spic is for Hispanics

[edit]Beaten by atom[/edit]
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Thanks, both of you.

Now I know other words to insult that should not be used on our servers.


Re: please respect others - Wedge - 07-13-2009

Can we use dago?  Are slurs for Italian's considered archaic now?  Can I be a dirty dago wop fag?


Re: please respect others - Dave - 07-13-2009

you limey bastard!


Re: please respect others - Squishy3 - 07-13-2009

I was walking around once and got called a racial slur for a black person by somebody I don't know once. He was sitting on his porch doing nothing, so it's obvious what my retaliation was. (note, we are both white.)


Re: please respect others - Dave - 07-13-2009

(07-13-2009, 07:59 PM)Squishy3 link Wrote: I was walking around once and got called a racial slur for a black person by somebody I don't know once. He was sitting on his porch doing nothing, so it's obvious what my retaliation was. (note, we are both white.)

kicked him in the teeth?


Re: please respect others - KarthXLR - 07-13-2009

Well, as much as I hate bringing this up, we don't have admins on that much anymore.

It's when it gets to this point when we REALLY need admins so we can mute those who are being obnoxious.