(01-19-2011, 11:06 AM)Caffeine link Wrote: Here's a potential list of changes, please comment on them:

Red:
- Removal of Random Crits - Not a fan.
- Stocks at back of nomination list - Definitely for it. I like getting to play non-stock maps more often, so maybe this will lower of the trend of people nominating a stock map, saying over the mic for everyone to vote for it (which almost always works)
- Stocks removed from nomination list - Nah, as others have said, it's still good to have stocks to try to fill the server when you need to.
- Removal of random pellet spread - I'd rather keep it.
- RTV "Last maps" limit increased from current to 6 (You can not rtv to the previous 6 maps played) - Sounds good.

Maps:
pl_badwater - Favorite stock map, certainly stays.
cp_indulge - Yeah, keep.
pl_frontier (Re-added) - Really like this map, I'm cool with the add.
cp_gorge - Yeah.
pl_boundary_rc3 (New!) - Do it do it do it
cp_roswell - that ends well
ctf_haarp_test7 (update from beta 2) - I really wasn't a fan of the update during TFT. Seems way too easy to attack now. I tend to like defensive CTF maps and the challenge they bring, so I'd rather keep the haarp we've had on rotation now.
pl_cashworks_rc2 -Always fun.
cp_gravelpit - It's a mainstay.
ctf_snowdrift_b3 - Best CTF map, has to stay.
pl_upward - Yes.
pl_waste_final - I don't care much for it, but we don't have much in the way of Tug-o-War Payload, so I guess it stays.
ctf_landfall_rc - I'm indifferent on it.
plr_hightower - Favorite PLR map, also keep.

I wanted to significantly trim down the rotation while adding a few new things and keeping things unique so each map represents a different gametype. This rotation is also very CP and PL heavy. I would also consider swapping out badwater or gravelpit for their backwards versions.

(01-19-2011, 11:06 AM)Caffeine link Wrote: Please REPLY to this post, I want your opinion on how to keep things fun and interesting

Red:
- Removal of Random Crits - I like this, but I wonder what it'll do to the overall server population.
- Stocks at back of nomination list - ok
- Stocks removed from nomination list - no, needed for seeding
- Removal of random pellet spread - I'm good with this.
- RTV "Last maps" limit increased from current to 6 (You can not rtv to the previous 6 maps played) - I'd say 4

(01-19-2011, 11:06 AM)Caffeine link Wrote: Red's Rotation:
Server #1:

pl_badwater - good map
cp_coldfront - decent map, but one I tend to screw around on because I don't care.
ctf_mach4 - I HATE CTF.  KILL IT DEAD
pl_thundermountain - Haven't played it enough.  Keep it, I guess.
cp_indulge - I hate indulge.  Dunno why.
cp_gorge - good map
plr_panic_b2 - amusing, but no
cp_roswell - Kill it with fire.
ctf_haarp_b2 - Love my haarp.  I dunno about the new version, but I'll get used to it.
cp_steel - Good map.  Bought a stamp for it.
pl_switftwater_frc4 - Can't remember this one.
cp_mountainlab - Can't remember...
cp_stark_b2 - I think I remember playing on Stark.  It should stay.
cp_glacier_rc5 - If this is the one I'm thinking of, then it needs to go.
cp_dustbowl - I loves me some dustbowl.  I don't care what you think.
pl_cashworks_rc2 - Good map
ctf_snowdrift_b3 - Great map
cp_gravelpit - Awful map.  I fucking hate gravelpit
cp_vector_v1 decent
pl_upward - bad map
cp_warpath2 - Should only be played on FNF
pl_waste_final - don't remember
pl_goldrush - good map
cp_gullywash_rc10 - don't remember
ctf_landfall_rc - don't remember
plr_hightower - plr is a bad format


Blue's Rotation:

cp_dustbowl
pl_badwater
cp_gorge
pl_upward
cp_well
pl_goldrush

List looks good


Here's a potential list of changes, please comment on them:

Red:
- Removal of Random Crits - If you don't announce it, pubbers will never notice.  Then everyone is happy.
- Stocks at back of nomination list - Should be alphabetical
- Stocks removed from nomination list - NO
- Removal of random pellet spread - I would like to see this effect.  I might suddenly get a lot better
- RTV "Last maps" limit increased from current to 6 (You can not rtv to the previous 6 maps played) - Sounds good

Maps:
pl_badwater
cp_indulge
pl_frontier (Re-added)
cp_gorge
pl_boundary_rc3 (New!)
cp_roswell
ctf_haarp_test7 (update from beta 2)
pl_cashworks_rc2
cp_gravelpit
ctf_snowdrift_b3
pl_upward
pl_waste_final
ctf_landfall_rc
plr_hightower

I'd take out roswell and the last four maps.  Add Dustbowl and maybe something else.  Maybe Steamroll for shits and giggles.

I wanted to significantly trim down the rotation while adding a few new things and keeping things unique so each map represents a different gametype. This rotation is also very CP and PL heavy. I would also consider swapping out badwater or gravelpit for their backwards versions. - Maybe use backwards maps "in addition to", not "instead of".


Blue:
- Removal of RTV, or removal of all non-stock maps from RTV, last night an errant RTV fucked something up in Sourcemod, causing the server to go to pac-man and kill the game there. - If it's a stock -only server, what are customs doing on RTV, anyway?

cp_dustbowl
pl_badwater
cp_gorge
pl_upward
cp_badlands (New)
pl_goldrush
plr_hightower (New)

(01-20-2011, 07:43 PM)Live-Free-Or-Pie link Wrote: My thoughts:

- KEEP THE CRITS on both servers, the game was designed for random crits and random crits break stalemates, random crits increase chaos, chaos is fun (except for hats)
- Keep RTV on both servers
- Extend last map RTVs to 6
- End the practice of stopping maps mid-round to switch one the overall map timer runs.
- Put stocks at the end of nominate list

(01-20-2011, 10:18 PM)TOH link Wrote: [quote author=Live-Free-Or-Pie link=topic=5374.msg193026#msg193026 date=1295570598]
My thoughts:

- KEEP THE CRITS on both servers, the game was designed for random crits and random crits break stalemates, random crits increase chaos, chaos is fun (except for hats)
- Keep RTV on both servers
- Extend last map RTVs to 6
- End the practice of stopping maps mid-round to switch one the overall map timer runs.
- Put stocks at the end of nominate list

(01-21-2011, 07:57 AM)Benito link Wrote: Hey if you remove crits and pellet spread, are you going to disable damage spread too?

I don't really care whether there are crits or not, really, but I just thought that you might as well take every random stuff off.

(01-20-2011, 06:36 PM)EarthlingJohn link Wrote: Theres this thing at the ROFL server, when they rtv or votemap, unless a map wins with a vote of more than 50%, it goes into the 2 highest voted maps to be voted upon. I think something like this should be implemented, that way we get more players to stay. (sometimes a map wins by like.. 25%, and people leave)

(01-20-2011, 07:50 PM)geoff link Wrote: gpit owns never remove it

(01-21-2011, 08:22 PM)LV15GAMER link Wrote: would no random pellet spread make already deadly scoots more deadly?

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Hopefully this will also fix the bullshit 18 dmg crit shots with the frontier justice.