(02-25-2009, 05:12 AM)Ianki link Wrote: Edit:  Also, the update fucked up admin access again.

(02-25-2009, 09:09 AM)Greatbacon link Wrote: New Scout audio taunts

(02-25-2009, 09:21 AM)Ianki link Wrote: [quote author=Greatbacon link=topic=2359.msg68763#msg68763 date=1235570940]
New Scout audio taunts

(02-25-2009, 05:12 AM)Ianki link Wrote: Upon fucking with the unlocks a bit tonight:

Bonk isn't OP:  2 second to drink it, 5 second tops of not being hit where you can't fire your gun (and we found out there is still knock back from sentry fire while OUI).  There really isn't alot of time with it to get any where significant, and the slow down is long enough that anyone chasing you could pick up off when you stop.  Situational, not a personal uber, and not game breaking.

Bat might be OP:  It feels like it kinda sucks, and might take some practice to be able to use efficently, but it causes enough deaths that it could get annoying, but in the "oh great, backburner, great skill there" way.  but, the huge lose of the double jump, and adding to the fact that it does 50% damage to people not knocked out as a melee weapon, makes it a huge draw back and not worth while to use without the ball.  Add to the fact that the ball is a little unpredictable in terms of trajectory, it takes 9-10 seconds to grab a new one, and it's an autofire on mouse one (i.e. you can't save it and still swing it as a melee.  the old have cake and eat it too phenomena), really limits the scout who is using it.   On the plus side, the taunt kill is great.

FoN isn't OP:  It's good for those who know how to aim with the scout since it's a quick two shot, but it only does the same amount of damage as the scatter at point blank.  Reload is faster than reloading two shots in the scatter since it reloads both rounds at once, but it's def faster to reload one round of the scatter and you'll have to do it a lot more (or the same if you reload after every couple rounds anyways).  One trick to get used to, if you're jumping and you're aiming straight ahead, the force of the shotback will stop your momentum in your tracks.  I do not know if this works in the other way (turning backwards and shooting to gain momentum).

Edit:  Also, the update fucked up admin access again.

(02-25-2009, 11:05 AM)Shoopfox link Wrote: How is Bonk not a personal uber? You're 100% invincible. And when a bonk'd scout ran past my sentry it didn't seem like there was a whole lot of knockback. The only time I saw knockback was when I had 8 stickies under a bonk'd scout, and when I saw him launch into the ceiling I almost ragequit. I can't believe explosives get dodged too @_@

(02-25-2009, 11:28 AM)Vongore link Wrote: Everytime i try to shoot a Scout with Bonk i always miss and not because the bonk effect, because the Scout is on "defense" mode and pass through me jumping and running anyway. So unless the Scout drink the bonk right next to me, it's hard to aim anyway (the only situation i can figure is a corridor, and your oponent is a Heavy)

(02-25-2009, 11:42 AM)Dave link Wrote: [quote author=Vongore link=topic=2359.msg68775#msg68775 date=1235579284]
Everytime i try to shoot a Scout with Bonk i always miss and not because the bonk effect, because the Scout is on "defense" mode and pass through me jumping and running anyway. So unless the Scout drink the bonk right next to me, it's hard to aim anyway (the only situation i can figure is a corridor, and your oponent is a Heavy)

(02-25-2009, 11:05 AM)Shoopfox link Wrote: How is Bonk not a personal uber? You're 100% invincible. And when a bonk'd scout ran past my sentry it didn't seem like there was a whole lot of knockback. The only time I saw knockback was when I had 8 stickies under a bonk'd scout, and when I saw him launch into the ceiling I almost ragequit. I can't believe explosives get dodged too @_@

The bat is really annoying. I can't believe there's no wind-up, and you can move while doing it @_@

(02-25-2009, 11:59 AM)KataKlipse link Wrote: how the heck do you get the out of the park achivment?

(02-25-2009, 09:09 AM)Greatbacon link Wrote: New Scout audio taunts

(02-25-2009, 12:14 PM)Ianki link Wrote: Also, we should redirect the OP conversations to the spy buff.

They "fixed" backstabs, but now regular backstabs work by breathing on you apparently.  Jorge backstabed me last night as i was double jumping directly away from him  :-\ .

They can now see the sames of the team they are disguised as, as well as their health.  example, last night a spy stole the health i was running towards and killed me with one revolver shot because he "saw he little health i had"  :'(

They can now clock with weapons other than primary.... Okay, this one is a bit cooler.

(02-25-2009, 05:12 AM)Ianki link Wrote: Bonk isn't OP:  2 second to drink it, 5 second tops of not being hit where you can't fire your gun (and we found out there is still knock back from sentry fire while OUI).  There really isn't alot of time with it to get any where significant, and the slow down is long enough that anyone chasing you could pick up off when you stop.  Situational, not a personal uber, and not game breaking.

(02-25-2009, 11:46 AM)Ianki link Wrote: mostly will be used for lucky grief by the hands of spore.