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Re: Guess who's next? - rumsfald - 06-08-2008
(06-08-2008, 07:30 PM)Dave link Wrote: -INUENDO!-
soo, do i fit in now guys?
....guys?
No. Normal name is normal.
Re: Guess who's next? - Luca Shoal - 06-08-2008
(06-08-2008, 02:15 PM)ainmosni link Wrote: [quote author=Wedge link=topic=460.msg11132#msg11132 date=1212952429]
[quote author=ainmosni link=topic=460.msg11088#msg11088 date=1212937543]
and a small speed increase to put him on par with the medic...
No. Eat needles and die fgt.
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Come here and suck the business end of my flamethrower
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Re: Guess who's next? - erraticferret - 06-09-2008
I feel terrible for anyone who plays Spy. They really should do something to balance out "spy checks" before the servers get flooded with trigger-happy Pyros.
Re: Guess who's next? - ZoSo - 06-09-2008
Do you really think spies need any help?
They can already cloak themselves and go into a disguise; on top of that they have 1 stab kills from the side or back, what cloaked spy can't kill someone (especially one zoomed in)? what more do they need?
Re: Guess who's next? - erraticferret - 06-09-2008
(06-09-2008, 12:44 AM)ZoSo link Wrote: Do you really think spies need any help?
They can already cloak themselves and go into a disguise; on top of that they have 1 stab kills from the side or back, what cloaked spy can't kill someone (especially one zoomed in)? what more do they need?
You've got a good point. And come to think of it, I can't think of any way to balance it out that wouldn't under-power Pyros. Still, those cloaks and disguises are going to be pretty useless when 3/4 of a team are made up of Pyros. And you KNOW one of the achievements is going to involve killing as many hidden Spys as possible.
No fair way to solve that, I guess. But it'll be fun to watch.
Re: Guess who's next? - ainmosni - 06-09-2008
(06-09-2008, 12:44 AM)ZoSo link Wrote: Do you really think spies need any help?
They can already cloak themselves and go into a disguise; on top of that they have 1 stab kills from the side or back, what cloaked spy can't kill someone (especially one zoomed in)? what more do they need?
The spy hate just oozes from this comment...
Re: Guess who's next? - CaffeinePowered - 06-09-2008
(06-09-2008, 07:28 AM)ainmosni link Wrote: [quote author=ZoSo link=topic=460.msg11206#msg11206 date=1212990259]
Do you really think spies need any help?
They can already cloak themselves and go into a disguise; on top of that they have 1 stab kills from the side or back, what cloaked spy can't kill someone (especially one zoomed in)? what more do they need?
The spy hate just oozes from this comment...
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Zoso doesnt like an enemy he can't headshot, nor does he like that he might have to you know...have friendlies around to cover him
Re: Guess who's next? - Kor - 06-09-2008
I'd love the idea of incendiary rounds for sure, and you know the napalm rockets are coming. Napalm specifically, because it can and would turn the pyro into a defensive class that can cover chokes instead of corners.
Re: Guess who's next? - Surf314 - 06-09-2008
(06-09-2008, 08:25 AM)CaffeinePowered link Wrote: [quote author=ainmosni link=topic=460.msg11220#msg11220 date=1213014529]
[quote author=ZoSo link=topic=460.msg11206#msg11206 date=1212990259]
Do you really think spies need any help?
They can already cloak themselves and go into a disguise; on top of that they have 1 stab kills from the side or back, what cloaked spy can't kill someone (especially one zoomed in)? what more do they need?
The spy hate just oozes from this comment...
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Zoso doesnt like an enemy he can't headshot, nor does he like that he might have to you know...have friendlies around to cover him
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Zoso is probably still pissed they took away the teleporter afterglow for spies. Now he can no longer play shoot the stupid newb cloaked spy and laugh at his expense. Ahhh that was a fun game.
Re: Guess who's next? - erraticferret - 06-09-2008
It's still satisfying to walk into another Pyro with my name. Especially one that tries to disguise or de-cloak in front of me.
Now THAT'S something they should fix. The first one, I mean.
Re: Guess who's next? - ainmosni - 06-09-2008
(06-09-2008, 10:31 AM)erraticferret link Wrote: It's still satisfying to walk into another Pyro with my name. Especially one that tries to disguise or de-cloak in front of me.
Now THAT'S something they should fix. The first one, I mean.
Nah, that's great... It has to pick someones name... so yours would turn up at some point.
Re: Guess who's next? - CaffeinePowered - 06-09-2008
So I guess we start speculating on Achievements....
Paranoia - Lite X Cloaked spies on fire
Just Checking..... - Puff X teammates with your flamethrower
Engineer's Best Friend - Kill X Spies within Y feet of a sentry gun or after they have attached a sapper
So Close Yet So Far (Credit Tacos?) - have an enemy die of burn damage ontop of a health pack
Firestarter - Kill X enemies with burn damage
My Flesh..IT BURNS!! - Kill X heavies
Ineffective Shield - Kill an engineer through his sentry gun with flames
Ax Man - Kill X people with the fireax
Flame Retardant - Kill X pyros with your flame thrower
Bubble Blower - kill X people underwater
1 - 2 Punch - Kill X people that are on fire with the shotgun
Re: Guess who's next? - erraticferret - 06-09-2008
(06-09-2008, 10:51 AM)ainmosni link Wrote: [quote author=erraticferret link=topic=460.msg11259#msg11259 date=1213025494]
It's still satisfying to walk into another Pyro with my name. Especially one that tries to disguise or de-cloak in front of me.
Now THAT'S something they should fix. The first one, I mean.
Nah, that's great... It has to pick someones name... so yours would turn up at some point.
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Sure, but is it that hard to have a person with the same name see a different one? For example, A disguised spy that looks like "Ainmosni" to everyone on your team, but "ErraticFerret" to you?
It's a silly nitpick, but with all the ways to pick out a spy, that seems like a needlessly easy one.
Re: Guess who's next? - KarthXLR - 06-09-2008
(06-09-2008, 11:14 AM)CaffeinePowered link Wrote: So I guess we start speculating on Achievements....I suppose this is the, "Autopsy Report" of the pyro achievments.
Paranoia - Lite X Cloaked spies on fire
Just Checking..... - Puff X teammates with your flamethrower
Engineer's Best Friend - Kill X Spies within Y feet of a sentry gun or after they have attached a sapper
So Close Yet So Far (Credit Tacos?) - have an enemy die of burn damage ontop of a health pack
Firestarter - Kill X enemies with burn damage
My Flesh..IT BURNS!! - Kill X heavies
Ineffective Shield - Kill an engineer through his sentry gun with flames
Ax Man - Kill X people with the fireax
Flame Retardant - Kill X pyros with your flame thrower
Bubble Blower - kill X people underwater
1 - 2 Punch - Kill X people that are on fire with the shotgun
Re: Guess who's next? - Luca Shoal - 06-09-2008
I approve of that So Close achievement.
This is a good update for my burninating activities. But why is Pyro such an underplayed class anyways?
Re: Guess who's next? - CaffeinePowered - 06-09-2008
(06-09-2008, 12:46 PM)Luca Shoal link Wrote: I approve of that So Close achievement.
This is a good update for my burninating activities. But why is Pyro such an underplayed class anyways?
Pyro is non-existent in league play, and very situational, it was a joke class in all previous TF iterations.
It sorta has found its niche in TF2, but not entirely. If players are smart you don't even need them for spy checking. Id imagine that in terms of minutes played, Pyro or Spy was last next to medic.
Re: Guess who's next? - KarthXLR - 06-09-2008
(06-09-2008, 12:46 PM)Luca Shoal link Wrote: I approve of that So Close achievement.Because Pyro is the class that can be killed by just about everyone. It's really hard to master.
This is a good update for my burninating activities. But why is Pyro such an underplayed class anyways?
They don't have good long range, their health is pretty small, anyone can have a pretty decent shot at them.
but isn't it satisfying to watch that burning body fall off the ledge?
Re: Guess who's next? - Dave - 06-09-2008
Pyro is underplayed because people to to stupid to figure out how you're meant to play them, its like the scout in that its not a head on attack class, you can't just run at the enemy and hope to achieve anything, you atack from a unknown angle then run off again, you attack fromt he other direction after the eemy charges after you, you have to get close to do decent damage, you play the pyro well, you can completely stop a whole team advancing with the epic AOE of the flames, its a hit and run class, and people are to fucking stupid to understand that.
Re: Guess who's next? - copulatingduck - 06-09-2008
(06-09-2008, 01:14 PM)Dave link Wrote: Pyro is underplayed because people to to stupid to figure out how you're meant to play them, its like the scout in that its not a head on attack class, you can't just run at the enemy and hope to achieve anything, you atack from a unknown angle then run off again, you attack fromt he other direction after the eemy charges after you, you have to get close to do decent damage, you play the pyro well, you can completely stop a whole team advancing with the epic AOE of the flames, its a hit and run class, and people are to fucking stupid to understand that.
People say this all the time, but honestly, a good pyro vs. an equally good soldier, at best they will both die, at worst, the hit-detection will get the best of the pyro and only the pyro will die. Pyro's a great ambush class, but he can't ambush everyone by a long shot. In most cases, scout or demo would serve the same purpose much better.
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Re: Guess who's next? - CaffeinePowered - 06-09-2008
(06-09-2008, 01:29 PM)copulatingduck link Wrote: [quote author=Dave link=topic=460.msg11304#msg11304 date=1213035244]
Pyro is underplayed because people to to stupid to figure out how you're meant to play them, its like the scout in that its not a head on attack class, you can't just run at the enemy and hope to achieve anything, you atack from a unknown angle then run off again, you attack fromt he other direction after the eemy charges after you, you have to get close to do decent damage, you play the pyro well, you can completely stop a whole team advancing with the epic AOE of the flames, its a hit and run class, and people are to fucking stupid to understand that.
People say this all the time, but honestly, a good pyro vs. an equally good soldier, at best they will both die, at worst, the hit-detection will get the best of the pyro and only the pyro will die. Pyro's a great ambush class, but he can't ambush everyone by a long shot. In most cases, scout or demo would serve the same purpose much better.
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Negative, soldier wins, 4/5 times, as long as the pyro doesnt get the jump on the soldier, they are gonna get rocket juggled and die