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Re: Great games of recent history - CaffeinePowered - 11-28-2008
(11-28-2008, 02:00 PM)Blues link Wrote: [quote author=Vongore link=topic=1844.msg51860#msg51860 date=1227890003]
[quote author=Blues link=topic=1844.msg51839#msg51839 date=1227867526]
Final Fantasy IX, probably the best of the FF games after they hit Playstation, really loved it and I've played it through twice now, which is a huge thing with me and RPGs. (I have a great memory when it comes to games, so I can't really go back through a linear RPG without getting bored 20 minutes in as I remember the story vividly even though it's been years)
Being a Final Fantasy doesn't mean that it is a good game
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As 10, 10-2, and 11 showed us. 9 on the other hand, was awesome.
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FF on the SNES was the pinnacle of the series, the PS-One games were good, and the PS2 ones mostly crap
Re: Great games of recent history - Honest - 11-28-2008
(11-28-2008, 03:20 PM)CaffeinePowered link Wrote: [quote author=Blues link=topic=1844.msg51886#msg51886 date=1227898838]
[quote author=Vongore link=topic=1844.msg51860#msg51860 date=1227890003]
[quote author=Blues link=topic=1844.msg51839#msg51839 date=1227867526]
Final Fantasy IX, probably the best of the FF games after they hit Playstation, really loved it and I've played it through twice now, which is a huge thing with me and RPGs. (I have a great memory when it comes to games, so I can't really go back through a linear RPG without getting bored 20 minutes in as I remember the story vividly even though it's been years)
Being a Final Fantasy doesn't mean that it is a good game
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As 10, 10-2, and 11 showed us. 9 on the other hand, was awesome.
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FF on the SNES was the pinnacle of the series, the PS-One games were good, and the PS2 ones mostly crap
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Old man Caff hating on us dern kids again, with our in game cutscenes and pretty boy main characters.
Never played most of the Final Fantasy series, but I dunno I liked 10 and 8. Skipped 9 'cause lolbrokenPS1, and 7 was unimpressive to me. Not terrible crap, just kind of boring.
Re: Great games of recent history - ZargonX - 11-28-2008
Age of Wonder: Shadow Magic is an excellent game far too many people overlooked.
Re: Great games of recent history - CaffeinePowered - 11-28-2008
(11-28-2008, 05:29 PM)Honest link Wrote: Old man Caff hating on us dern kids again, with our in game cutscenes and pretty boy main characters.
Never played most of the Final Fantasy series, but I dunno I liked 10 and 8. Skipped 9 'cause lolbrokenPS1, and 7 was unimpressive to me. Not terrible crap, just kind of boring.
1 - Good, started the series, a ton of new innovations not seen in RPGs at the time, defined the setup for JRPGs for years to come
2 - Step backwards, they tried to do a story driven plot, but dear god does the battle system ever suck ass
3 - Slightly under-rated, went back to 1s format for the first time, job system was sort of half baked
4 - 2nd best in my opinion, excellent story, best puppet villain ever, and great music to boot
5 - IMHO one of the best battle/job set-ups story was somewhat cliche, but damn does the battle system make up for it
6 - Best FF, best music & story, amazing villain, suburb cast of characters, everyone has a good and well thought out back story and is likeable, except Gau, seriously fuck him
7 - If you played VII first, its your favorite, if you played any other first, odds are 6 is your favorite. Not as good as IV or VI, and IMHO its where the series starts getting worse
8 - Amazing story rivaling IV, loses major points from me for having a battle system almost as bad as II
9 - Sakaguchi said this was his favorite, and if any game should be made in the style of FF it should be like IX, overall it was solid and had a lot of homage to the old games
---Post Sakaguchi Directing/Writing/Designing---
10 - First use of horrid voice acting, had some good moments, but I seriously want to stab Tidus, best thing to come out of this was Auron, villain quality goes down hill big time
11 - There is no FFIX, there's an MMORPG Final Fantasy, but no single player game, so I wont lump it in with the others
12 - Delicious bunny girl, and that's about it for this game, fuck its MMO battle system, Vayne is such a weak-sauce villain and there's so many plot-holes with the immortals and the Sun Cryst you couldn't fill them all with a hundred cement mixers full of plot
13 - Where has FF gone and what have you done with it
Sakaguchi now works for Mystwalker which is owned by MS, he did Lost Odyssey and Blue Dragon, the former being much better than the latter. Id give blue dragon a D/D+ and Lost Odyssey a C+/B-. Third times a charm I guess, and I hope he is working on something really really good at the moment.
Re: Great games of recent history - Honest - 11-28-2008
1-6 didn't play. Well I played 1 and 2 on the DS and agree with you, though they aren't the original 2 was just god awful.
Semi-disagree with you about 8, battle system was perfectly fine imo, the major failure of the game was the Junction system. Not the entire battle system, just that specific part was ass and should feel bad.
Didn't play 9.
10 wasn't really bad, it did a good job of setting up the atmosphere and story. Villains were sort of half assed, they were not as much of an all encompassing threat as the other games, considering the only two memorable ones were Seymore and Sin, one of which being a spoiled hoity toity snob and the other being the final boss. I kind of assumed Tidus was meant to be annoying and just ran with it.
11 doesn't count ever. I play it and it doesn't count.
12 Is bad and everyone should feel bad.
13...isn't out and I don't know why it's in your list.
AND YOU FORGOT X-2 LOLOLOL...hah, man wouldn't it be weird if that was actually a legitimate point? I dunno, FF's always had it's up's and downs with me, but I'm the kind of guy who can excuse certain things for a decent story and atmosphere. Probably why I like Kingdom Hearts so much.Â
Re: Great games of recent history - Dave - 11-28-2008
seymore was a twat and wouldne die
ever
i would nut him in the face.
Re: Great games of recent history - CaffeinePowered - 11-28-2008
(11-28-2008, 06:30 PM)Honest link Wrote: 13...isn't out and I don't know why it's in your list.
Just a feeling I get from watching trailers, and they fact they they are releasing some companion set bullshit where you have to buy like 3 games to get the "whole story"
Square has come close to bankruptcy several times, if FF1 hadn't been a hit, there would be no Square, thats why the devs called it 'Final Fantasy' cause they thought it would be the final game the company made before going belly-up.
FFVII almost bankrupt them, they hit the jackpot with it though
FFXIII is currently putting them deep into a hole, the white engine itself is a money devouring black hole with nothing to show for it yet, and the release date is "when its done". FF used to go on a 1 - 2 year cycles
1 - 1987
2 - 1988
3 - 1990
4 - 1991
5 -Â 1992
6 - 1994
7 - 1997
8 - 1999
9 - 2000
10 - 2001
11 - 2002
12 - 2006
13 - ?? (3 years and counting if 2009)
Pretty sure 8/9 are so close cause they use the same engine, aside from that the development times have mushroomed after the PS2, 5 years from 10 to 12, and the tentative date for 13 is 2009 for Japan, and that will likely get pushed back, since if they want to recoup their investment they are going to have to port it to 360 (and maybe PC).
Also the merger with Enix is what kept them from going bankrupt at some point too...
Re: Great games of recent history - Honest - 11-28-2008
Companion set...what? Well now I'm angrier than I've ever been.
Re: Great games of recent history - cbre88x - 11-28-2008
5 or 6 is my fav. although 7 is a close 2nd or 3rd.
I've tried going back and playing 9 and it just doesn't gel with me.
8 is a flipflop for me..sometimes i love it..sometimes I hate it. I think it's squall..he was such a bitchass...but Rinoa made up for it sometimes.
5 has the best battle system.
10 sucked..never had a desire to play 12
I hope to God 13 is worth it.
Re: Great games of recent history - Vandamguy - 11-28-2008
1-3 didnt play , got bored of the ds remakes
4 (good) played back on snes , after playing 6(best **spoiler**Â Â shadow is a girl) , so it didnt make sense when i couldnt make my own party of nutters.
5 skip,
7 played loved , made 8 master materia legit , cause i loved it.
8 : didnt like the drawing gimmick
9: was looking at ps2 screenshots and thinking how much this game looked liek ass , never finished.
10: liked the sphere thing , quick hit was the most broken skill in game.
10-2 : liked playing dressup with my barbie dolls, i fapped to paine in the lady luck costume.
![[Image: x2-paineladyluck-a.jpg]](http://www.ffcompendium.com/art/x2-paineladyluck-a.jpg)
11: didnt like leveling down when i died , made it to 11 i think. fuck that shit.
12: liked the mmo style , and the macros. made it so i didnt have to play the battles , jst stroll through. also used a walkthrough in order to get some Judas spear wayy to early on which trivialized the game.
Re: Great games of recent history - x - 11-29-2008
(11-28-2008, 10:59 PM)Vandamguy link Wrote: 7 played loved , made 8 master materia legit , cause i loved it.
Damn son.
Re: Great games of recent history - cbre88x - 11-29-2008
(11-29-2008, 02:50 AM)Arnies Right Bicep link Wrote: [quote author=Vandamguy link=topic=1844.msg51968#msg51968 date=1227931191]Damn son.
7 played loved , made 8 master materia legit , cause i loved it.
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Mastering materia is the easiest way to kick ass fast.
Re: Great games of recent history - Versus - 11-29-2008
definitely halo 3, fucking revolutionary
deus ex has nothing on the depth of halo 3.
Re: Great games of recent history - Scary Womanizing Pig Mask - 11-29-2008
Never understood why 10 gets so much hate. It wasn't the best game ever, but I rather enjoyed it, especially Sin.
Also, what about X-2? It was a bit ridiculous at times, but I liked the world of 10 so I had fun with it.
Re: Great games of recent history - ZargonX - 11-29-2008
12 was the first FF I actually quite playing in the middle (well, not counting 11, which I never played). I found 12 massively boring on all fronts, both story and gameplay. I felt the gambit system was awful, and if 13 uses it as well, I probably won't like that either.
Re: Great games of recent history - Dave - 11-29-2008
(11-29-2008, 09:50 AM)Scary Womanizing Pig Mask link Wrote: Never understood why 10 gets so much hate. It wasn't the best game ever, but I rather enjoyed it, especially Sin.
Also, what about X-2? It was a bit ridiculous at times, but I liked the world of 10 so I had fun with it.
when i was 10 i tried to play blitzball at our local pool, nearly drowned doing an underwater backflip when the ball hit me.
i kinda liked it, would play it again tho.
Back to OT, assassins creed
loved it, WTB hidden knife.
Re: Great games of recent history - Versus - 11-29-2008
I liked 10
, though I ended up quitting near the end 'cause Yunalesca pissed me off >
Re: Great games of recent history - Surf314 - 12-03-2008
I thought the original PoP was one of the best games for the complete experience it gave you. The puzzles, time shifting, story, feeling like a badass, running on walls and shit.
I hear the new one is possibly better, can't wait to play it.
Re: Great games of recent history - Vongore - 12-03-2008
The new PoP are an insult to the original. If i could do these Matrix-esque moves on the first one it would be the easiest game ever