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Re: Eff single spaces after periods - at0m - 05-19-2009

(05-19-2009, 12:51 PM)SBCrystal link Wrote: I know that this is kind of on topic, since it got off topic...er...but yes, that's why I love the English language: it is always evolving and changing.

For example: when writing essays more and more people are using "their" as a pronoun to be politically correct when they don't know the gender of the author being cited, when the 'proper' way to do this is to refer to the author (male or female) in the masculine form. Soon, simply because of the way society is becoming more PC, this will no longer be the case and using "their" will be the new way of doing things.

One of my biggest pet peeves is not having the option for Canadian English with most programs. Canadian English is a mix of British and "American" English, but no one seems to understand this. Personally, when met with no other option, I choose the British version anyway.

</end moronic ramblings about her favourite thing in the world>
Going to strap on some armour and paint the town a different colour?

Re: Eff single spaces after periods - fyre - 05-19-2009

I use the singular "they." It's not technically correct but it's better than using the generic "he" or the dreadful "s/he." If someone has a better alternative I would be delighted to use it.

Re: Eff single spaces after periods - chronomaster - 05-19-2009

I've always single-spaced all of my life. Double-spacing only halves the life of your keyboard.

Re: Eff single spaces after periods - Eschatos - 05-19-2009

(05-19-2009, 01:28 PM)fyre link Wrote: I use the singular "they." It's not technically correct but it's better than using the generic "he" or the dreadful "s/he." If someone has a better alternative I would be delighted to use it.

I never knew that he was the default for unknown authors.  I always used their.

Re: Eff single spaces after periods - Fail Medic - 05-19-2009

(05-19-2009, 01:56 PM)Chronomaster link Wrote: I've always single-spaced all of my life. Double-spacing only halves the life of your keyboard.

Hold up--wait a minute.

Halves the life of your keyboard? 

I sampled a few paragraphs back and word spaces in a paragraph came out to 22, 14, 35, 29, and 21 in the individual sentences.  Desired typical sentence length is 15 to 20 words if these websites I'm looking at are official.  My point is double-spacing periods vs. single-spacing words is like 1 in 10 - 20, or 1 in 30 if someone is consistently wordy.

I disagree that double-spacing halves the life of a keyboard.  Maybe reduced by 5 - 10%, but I don't go for halved. 

I'd submit that playing an FPS which has jump mapped to spacebar (especially for TF2 scouts) is way more abusive than double-spacing during writing where you're not as likely to jam on it (well, unless you were internet-raging or something).

Re: Eff single spaces after periods - copulatingduck - 05-19-2009

(05-19-2009, 02:38 PM)Fail Medic link Wrote: [quote author=Chronomaster link=topic=2904.msg84168#msg84168 date=1242759379]
I've always single-spaced all of my life. Double-spacing only halves the life of your keyboard.

Hold up--wait a minute.

Halves the life of your keyboard? 

I sampled a few paragraphs back and word spaces in a paragraph came out to 22, 14, 35, 29, and 21 in the individual sentences.  Desired typical sentence length is 15 to 20 words if these websites I'm looking at or official.  My point is double-spacing periods vs. single-spacing words is like 1 in 10 - 20, or 1 in 30 if someone is consistently wordy.

I disagree that double-spacing halves the life of a keyboard.  Maybe reduced by 5 - 10%, but I don't go for halved. 

I'd submit that playing an FPS which has jump mapped to spacebar (especially for TF2 scouts) is way more abusive than double-spacing during writing where you're not as likely to jam on it (well, unless you were internet-raging or something).
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fail dropping logic bombs on your false claims   :Smile

Re: Eff single spaces after periods - Fail Medic - 05-19-2009

(05-19-2009, 03:01 PM)CopulatingDuck link Wrote: fail dropping logic bombs on your false claims   :Smile

'Cause this is important, damn it!

Re: Eff single spaces after periods - Dave - 05-19-2009

haha ooo fail with the bitch slaps

+1

Re: Eff single spaces after periods - Surf314 - 05-19-2009

The digg posting of this has >400 comments.

Re: Eff single spaces after periods - chronomaster - 05-19-2009

(05-19-2009, 02:38 PM)Fail Medic link Wrote: [quote author=Chronomaster link=topic=2904.msg84168#msg84168 date=1242759379]
I've always single-spaced all of my life. Double-spacing only halves the life of your keyboard.

Hold up--wait a minute.

Halves the life of your keyboard? 

I sampled a few paragraphs back and word spaces in a paragraph came out to 22, 14, 35, 29, and 21 in the individual sentences.  Desired typical sentence length is 15 to 20 words if these websites I'm looking at are official.  My point is double-spacing periods vs. single-spacing words is like 1 in 10 - 20, or 1 in 30 if someone is consistently wordy.

I disagree that double-spacing halves the life of a keyboard.  Maybe reduced by 5 - 10%, but I don't go for halved. 

I'd submit that playing an FPS which has jump mapped to spacebar (especially for TF2 scouts) is way more abusive than double-spacing during writing where you're not as likely to jam on it (well, unless you were internet-raging or something).
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Hahaha I must have been half asleep when I made that post. Whoops.

+1 for catching me up.

Re: Eff single spaces after periods - Spore - 05-19-2009

This rule is becoming a relic of the past. Useless today and not going to survive.

Re: Eff single spaces after periods - Benito Mussolini - 05-19-2009

(05-19-2009, 01:10 PM)Surf314 link Wrote: [quote author=Caffeine link=topic=2904.msg84150#msg84150 date=1242756027]
[quote author=Surf314 link=topic=2904.msg84148#msg84148 date=1242755622]
I had a teacher on a crusade against the exclamation mark.  To be honest it is the most useless of all punctuation marks.  If not for the internet it probably would have died by now.

It has plenty of use in fiction....
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I think the idea was if you can't express the idea behind the exclamation point in your writing you are doing it wrong.  Plus it seems like it does a terrible job of doing what it is supposed to.  You don't get to it till the end of the sentence and then you have to retro-actively add the emphasis to what you just read which doesn't have much of an impact at least for me.  I think the spanish may have it right adding the question and exclamation marks to the beginning and end of sentences, then you can read it in the proper tone.  To me it seems that the exclamation mark is self serving to the person writing it (I am guilty of this too).

On the internet though it is given new life since it is used to help convey the mood of the person writing, so it doesn't matter as much that it is at the end of the sentence or that it's not really changing the way you are thinking about the sentence it is at the back of.  You see it and you think this person is in an excited mood.  The number of exclamation marks help gauge how excited they are.
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I think I can open absolutely any book I have at home and find at least 10 exclamation marks in it. Probably even school books... You should know how often quantum physics can be exciting.

Re: Eff single spaces after periods - Surf314 - 05-19-2009

(05-19-2009, 05:05 PM)Benito Mussolini link Wrote: [quote author=Surf314 link=topic=2904.msg84152#msg84152 date=1242756649]
[quote author=Caffeine link=topic=2904.msg84150#msg84150 date=1242756027]
[quote author=Surf314 link=topic=2904.msg84148#msg84148 date=1242755622]
I had a teacher on a crusade against the exclamation mark.  To be honest it is the most useless of all punctuation marks.  If not for the internet it probably would have died by now.

It has plenty of use in fiction....
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I think the idea was if you can't express the idea behind the exclamation point in your writing you are doing it wrong.  Plus it seems like it does a terrible job of doing what it is supposed to.  You don't get to it till the end of the sentence and then you have to retro-actively add the emphasis to what you just read which doesn't have much of an impact at least for me.  I think the spanish may have it right adding the question and exclamation marks to the beginning and end of sentences, then you can read it in the proper tone.  To me it seems that the exclamation mark is self serving to the person writing it (I am guilty of this too).

On the internet though it is given new life since it is used to help convey the mood of the person writing, so it doesn't matter as much that it is at the end of the sentence or that it's not really changing the way you are thinking about the sentence it is at the back of.  You see it and you think this person is in an excited mood.  The number of exclamation marks help gauge how excited they are.
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I think I can open absolutely any book I have at home and find at least 10 exclamation marks in it. Probably even school books... You should know how often quantum physics can be exciting.
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Really?

Re: Eff single spaces after periods - chronomaster - 05-19-2009

So, then, what are your thoughts on the interrobang?

Re: Eff single spaces after periods - Surf314 - 05-19-2009

(05-19-2009, 05:34 PM)Chronomaster link Wrote: So, then, what are your thoughts on the interrobang?

It's cute.

Re: Eff single spaces after periods - at0m - 05-19-2009

(05-19-2009, 05:34 PM)Chronomaster link Wrote: What are your thoughts on the interrobang‽
fixed.

Re: Eff single spaces after periods - Surf314 - 05-19-2009

I think we should use the Irony mark more often.

Actually I like this whole list:

doubt point (), certitude point (), acclamation point (), authority point (), indignation point (), and love point ()

Re: Eff single spaces after periods - Surf314 - 05-19-2009

How do you type unicode?  I have one for the irony mark but I don't know how to use it  :-\

Re: Eff single spaces after periods - chronomaster - 05-19-2009

(05-19-2009, 06:06 PM)at0m link Wrote: [quote author=Chronomaster link=topic=2904.msg84278#msg84278 date=1242772476]
What are your thoughts on the interrobang‽
fixed.
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Way to break a segway on a thread about grammar.

Re: Eff single spaces after periods - rumsfald - 05-19-2009

(05-19-2009, 01:10 PM)Surf314 link Wrote: I think the idea was if you can't express the idea behind the exclamation point in your writing you are doing it wrong.  Plus it seems like it does a terrible job of doing what it is supposed to.  You don't get to it till the end of the sentence and then you have to retro-actively add the emphasis to what you just read which doesn't have much of an impact at least for me. 

fuck you?
  or
fuck you!


I disagree, I find it working as intended.