(07-08-2009, 06:15 PM)Mr. Face link Wrote: Global Warming better be real if i have to ride around in this.

(07-08-2009, 06:15 PM)Mr. Face link Wrote: My first car is a smartcar...
Global Warming better be real if i have to ride around in this.

(07-09-2009, 11:01 AM)CopulatingDuck link Wrote: http://www.evga.com/decade/

(07-09-2009, 08:43 AM)Surf314 link Wrote: So my cat, my original cat, has it in for me now.  I don't really understand it but I think it's because the other two cats beat her up all the time and I can only break up so many fights.  She's peed and pooped on my fav spot on the couch and my side of the bed.

I dunno what to do, I'm thinking about finding another home for her since its 2 on 1 with the cats currently.  My coworker who is really knowledgeable about animals said I should shut her in a part of the house by herself for a week so she has time to de-stress.  So I'm doing that first.  If it doesn't I'm pretty sure I'm going to start looking into giving her away, I think she'd be happier somewhere she can be a single cat (she is an extreme loner).

(07-09-2009, 11:02 AM)Honest link Wrote: [quote author=CopulatingDuck link=topic=2632.msg95923#msg95923 date=1247155261]
http://www.evga.com/decade/

(07-09-2009, 08:43 AM)Surf314 link Wrote: So my cat, my original cat, has it in for me now.  I don't really understand it but I think it's because the other two cats beat her up all the time and I can only break up so many fights.  She's peed and pooped on my fav spot on the couch and my side of the bed.

I dunno what to do, I'm thinking about finding another home for her since its 2 on 1 with the cats currently.  My coworker who is really knowledgeable about animals said I should shut her in a part of the house by herself for a week so she has time to de-stress.  So I'm doing that first.  If it doesn't I'm pretty sure I'm going to start looking into giving her away, I think she'd be happier somewhere she can be a single cat (she is an extreme loner).

(07-09-2009, 05:44 PM)Surf314 link Wrote: Cat knows she went overboard and is now hiding from me even though I'm not mad at her.  I just feel bad for her since I know she's upset about getting picked on all the time.  Taking her to the vets tomorrow just in case.  Nature's Miracle cat odor removal does a wonderful job.  So all and all things seem to have worked out.

I still might give her away if I find a good home for her though, she really doesn't seem that happy lately.

(07-09-2009, 10:02 PM)Ianki link Wrote: [quote author=Surf314 link=topic=2632.msg96085#msg96085 date=1247179483]
Cat knows she went overboard and is now hiding from me even though I'm not mad at her.  I just feel bad for her since I know she's upset about getting picked on all the time.  Taking her to the vets tomorrow just in case.  Nature's Miracle cat odor removal does a wonderful job.  So all and all things seem to have worked out.

I still might give her away if I find a good home for her though, she really doesn't seem that happy lately.

(07-10-2009, 06:03 AM)Surf314 link Wrote: [quote author=Ianki link=topic=2632.msg96203#msg96203 date=1247194968]
[quote author=Surf314 link=topic=2632.msg96085#msg96085 date=1247179483]
Cat knows she went overboard and is now hiding from me even though I'm not mad at her.  I just feel bad for her since I know she's upset about getting picked on all the time.  Taking her to the vets tomorrow just in case.  Nature's Miracle cat odor removal does a wonderful job.  So all and all things seem to have worked out.

I still might give her away if I find a good home for her though, she really doesn't seem that happy lately.

(07-09-2009, 10:04 PM)Karth is a Public Enemy link Wrote: OH MY GOD YES PITCHMEN IS ON I'M SO RECORDING THIS

(07-10-2009, 02:02 AM)Tortilla link Wrote: I vote we never talk about horse dicks or trannies or uncircumcised vs. circumcised in the TF2 server ever again.

(07-10-2009, 07:57 AM)Surf314 link Wrote: What about the vending machines for crows or the facial recognition found in crows?  I'm not saying that animals have people characteristics, but they do have moods and problem solving skills.
In the case of my cat she's normally pretty skittish but is friendly around me and will come when I call her.  Since she peed on my couch everytime she sees that I have seen her she runs and hides, and I haven't seen much of her in a couple days.  She won't come when I call either.  It's pretty uncharacteristic and seems reasonable to assume a causal relationship. Also my other cat growls when hes on my lap and someone knocks on the door or the phone rings because he knows he has to get up.
I know my cats aren't people but they still act and react in ways that show there is more complexity to their behavior than to satisfy just their "hierarchy of needs."  Like I don't speak to my cats as if they will understand me but sometimes I do talk to them knowing that they know I am paying attention to them and can take cue from my tone of voice and they act accordingly.  Like my orange cat when spoken to will generally start rolling around and jumping all over you because he loves attention.
I think that assuming animals are biological automatons (or soulless as a religious person might put it) is just as naive as saying they can understand us and act just like people. It also seems to go along with this strange thinking that even though we all evolved together somehow we are the only animals on the planet capable of complex thought. The biggest problem I see is that we try to teach animals specifically human traits and abilities when we do research on them, which is basically assuming animals can be people with just a little learnin'. But if you treat animals as if they have their own way of thinking you can find a lot of nuance just there.  Like the big cat sanctuary near me, the keepers have to be able to tell their moods just by looking at them to know if it is safe to interact with them.  In that case it's the animals teaching the people how to think like them.
Also don't get me started on dolphins.

(07-10-2009, 08:23 AM)cbre88x link Wrote: [quote author=Surf314 link=topic=2632.msg96279#msg96279 date=1247230652]
What about the vending machines for crows or the facial recognition found in crows?  I'm not saying that animals have people characteristics, but they do have moods and problem solving skills.
In the case of my cat she's normally pretty skittish but is friendly around me and will come when I call her.  Since she peed on my couch everytime she sees that I have seen her she runs and hides, and I haven't seen much of her in a couple days.  She won't come when I call either.  It's pretty uncharacteristic and seems reasonable to assume a causal relationship. Also my other cat growls when hes on my lap and someone knocks on the door or the phone rings because he knows he has to get up.
I know my cats aren't people but they still act and react in ways that show there is more complexity to their behavior than to satisfy just their "hierarchy of needs."  Like I don't speak to my cats as if they will understand me but sometimes I do talk to them knowing that they know I am paying attention to them and can take cue from my tone of voice and they act accordingly.  Like my orange cat when spoken to will generally start rolling around and jumping all over you because he loves attention.
I think that assuming animals are biological automatons (or soulless as a religious person might put it) is just as naive as saying they can understand us and act just like people. It also seems to go along with this strange thinking that even though we all evolved together somehow we are the only animals on the planet capable of complex thought. The biggest problem I see is that we try to teach animals specifically human traits and abilities when we do research on them, which is basically assuming animals can be people with just a little learnin'. But if you treat animals as if they have their own way of thinking you can find a lot of nuance just there.  Like the big cat sanctuary near me, the keepers have to be able to tell their moods just by looking at them to know if it is safe to interact with them.  In that case it's the animals teaching the people how to think like them.
Also don't get me started on dolphins.