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Weird temp readings on new processor - shoopfox - 06-11-2011

I just got my rig together today, and my i5 2500 is idling at 64c according to bios and the CPUTIN of CPUID. But it never fluctuates even a degree under a stress test and CPUID also shows my cores all idling at ~30 which sounds about right since the mobo temp is 29. Is the thermometer on the processor just being retarded? ???

Re: Weird temp readings on new processor - Didzo - 06-11-2011

(06-11-2011, 01:38 AM)Señor Pinchy link Wrote: I just got my rig together today, and my i5 2500 is idling at 64c according to bios and the CPUTIN of CPUID. But it never fluctuates even a degree under a stress test and CPUID also shows my cores all idling at ~30 which sounds about right since the mobo temp is 29. Is the thermometer on the processor just being retarded? ???

Intel runs hot.

That temp isn't ridiculous (64C), but you can always slap on an aftermarket cooler for peace of mind if you really, really want to.

What are your computer components, just out of curiosity?

Re: Weird temp readings on new processor - Kirby - 06-11-2011

(06-11-2011, 01:38 AM)Señor Pinchy link Wrote: I just got my rig together today, and my i5 2500 is idling at 64c according to bios and the CPUTIN of CPUID. But it never fluctuates even a degree under a stress test and CPUID also shows my cores all idling at ~30 which sounds about right since the mobo temp is 29. Is the thermometer on the processor just being retarded? ???


If you can't get it to move, period, no matter the CPU load, then that sensor is obviously returning faulty data. Check and see if there's any BIOS upgrades available, I've lost count of how many BIOS updates I've seen that fix improper sensor readings from CPU's



And idling at 64C is pretty much retarded, Didzo. If your CPU idles at almost 150 degrees farenheit, then you really, really need to rethink your cooling setup.


For how many years was AMD the "AMD runs hotter than Intel" brand, and I've never seen any AMD idle that hot, ever. In fact, I've never even seen my 6 core CPU touch 64C even under full blown 100% load across all 6 cores, or with turbo core doing it's thing and shutting 3 cores down and overclocking the others to 3.6Ghz. I'm using the stock aluminium cooler, too.

Re: Weird temp readings on new processor - copulatingduck - 06-11-2011

(06-11-2011, 11:27 AM)Kirby, the FaNspyPyro link Wrote: [quote author=Señor Pinchy link=topic=5704.msg209846#msg209846 date=1307774335]
I just got my rig together today, and my i5 2500 is idling at 64c according to bios and the CPUTIN of CPUID. But it never fluctuates even a degree under a stress test and CPUID also shows my cores all idling at ~30 which sounds about right since the mobo temp is 29. Is the thermometer on the processor just being retarded? ???


If you can't get it to move, period, no matter the CPU load, then that sensor is obviously returning faulty data. Check and see if there's any BIOS upgrades available, I've lost count of how many BIOS updates I've seen that fix improper sensor readings from CPU's



And idling at 64C is pretty much retarded, Didzo. If your CPU idles at almost 150 degrees farenheit, then you really, really need to rethink your cooling setup.


For how many years was AMD the "AMD runs hotter than Intel" brand, and I've never seen any AMD idle that hot, ever. In fact, I've never even seen my 6 core CPU touch 64C even under full blown 100% load across all 6 cores, or with turbo core doing it's thing and shutting 3 cores down and overclocking the others to 3.6Ghz. I'm using the stock aluminium cooler, too.
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yea, only processor ive ever managed to push that high was a dualcore in an early dualcore laptop with entirely too many powerhouse components crammed into an entirely too small package. idle should be somewhere around the 30s, MAYBE 40s depending on the surrounding environment and such. Sometimes I've seen CPUID just not work very well, what kind of temp are you actually seeing from the BIOS? If nothing else works, stick a thermocouple on it lol

Re: Weird temp readings on new processor - shoopfox - 06-11-2011

Yeah, my cores seem to never get much above 60c ingame, though the hardest game I've tested so far was Bad Company 2, lol. I'm not too worried about it running too hot now. Thanks for the input

(06-11-2011, 04:55 AM)Didzo link Wrote: What are your computer components, just out of curiosity?

Hmm, I'd have to ask Wedge for the exact components since he's the one who took care of all this, but I have an 15 2500 (not k 'cause I'm not really looking to put aftermarket cooling just to OC it), 8gb of 1600 DDR3 ram, my old 9800 til I see a good card on sale, and an Asrock p67 Pro3 board.

Re: Weird temp readings on new processor - HeK - 06-11-2011

(06-11-2011, 11:27 AM)Kirby, the FaNspyPyro link Wrote: For how many years was AMD the "AMD runs hotter than Intel" brand, and I've never seen any AMD idle that hot, ever.

The last of the classic Athlon CPUs were bad. My 1.3ghz (the last model before the XPs came out) would idle at 40-45 ish and sit at 85 while in game. That was with a massive heat sink as well.
I had to change out the thermal paste every few months as it would bake into a crust.

Both Intel and AMD have gotten very good for low heat. Hell, it's hard not to when you keep shrinking the die size.
Now with 35nm cores, 65 should be the upper limit, 80 is well into the danger zone.

Re: Weird temp readings on new processor - Kirby - 06-11-2011

(06-11-2011, 05:08 PM)HeK link Wrote: [quote author=Kirby, the FaNspyPyro link=topic=5704.msg209871#msg209871 date=1307809672]
For how many years was AMD the "AMD runs hotter than Intel" brand, and I've never seen any AMD idle that hot, ever.

The last of the classic Athlon CPUs were bad. My 1.3ghz (the last model before the XPs came out) would idle at 40-45 ish and sit at 85 while in game. That was with a massive heat sink as well.
I had to change out the thermal paste every few months as it would bake into a crust.

Both Intel and AMD have gotten very good for low heat. Hell, it's hard not to when you keep shrinking the die size.
Now with 35nm cores, 65 should be the upper limit, 80 is well into the danger zone.
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Danger zone on mine is 65.  Hottest I've ever gotten it was 59, running with my case side off. I normally idle at around 28-30, stuff like TF2 doesn't really make it sweat much, C2 and MW:LL are the biggest temp powerhouses, and they normally only get it up to 50.

Re: Weird temp readings on new processor - sk8mystery23 - 06-11-2011

All this talk about temp reading, just wondering what programs you guys use, so, what programs do you guys use?

Re: Weird temp readings on new processor - HeK - 06-11-2011

(06-11-2011, 11:12 PM)sk8mystery23 link Wrote: All this talk about temp reading, just wondering what programs you guys use, so, what programs do you guys use?

Bios and my infrared thermometer.

Re: Weird temp readings on new processor - Luinbariel - 06-11-2011

(06-11-2011, 11:51 PM)HeK link Wrote: [quote author=sk8mystery23 link=topic=5704.msg209946#msg209946 date=1307851934]
All this talk about temp reading, just wondering what programs you guys use, so, what programs do you guys use?

Bios and my infrared thermometer.
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HeK is a program



Re: Weird temp readings on new processor - sk8mystery23 - 06-12-2011

How the hell do you measure the temperature of a core while a computer is running a game in the bios.... Let alone measure the temperature of a core with a heatsink on top of it.

Re: Weird temp readings on new processor - shoopfox - 06-12-2011

(06-12-2011, 01:28 AM)sk8mystery23 link Wrote: How the hell do you measure the temperature of a core while a computer is running a game in the bios.... Let alone measure the temperature of a core with a heatsink on top of it.

I use CPUID Hardware Monitor which shows you the temperature BIOS reports and the individual core temps along with a bunch of other junk.

Re: Weird temp readings on new processor - Didzo - 06-12-2011

I shouldn't be allowed to post at 3AM.

:-X

Re: Weird temp readings on new processor - sk8mystery23 - 06-12-2011

(06-12-2011, 03:54 AM)Didzo link Wrote: I shouldn't be allowed to post at 3AM.

:-X

It's only 4:26 here, what's the big deal?

Re: Weird temp readings on new processor - HeK - 06-12-2011

(06-12-2011, 01:28 AM)sk8mystery23 link Wrote: How the hell do you measure the temperature of a core while a computer is running a game in the bios.... Let alone measure the temperature of a core with a heatsink on top of it.

A good combo is SpeedFan and a G15 keyboard.
A LCD on a keyboard is the most useful gimmick ever.

Re: Weird temp readings on new processor - Kirby - 06-12-2011

(06-12-2011, 01:28 AM)sk8mystery23 link Wrote: How the hell do you measure the temperature of a core while a computer is running a game in the bios.... Let alone measure the temperature of a core with a heatsink on top of it.



There's plenty of programs out there that will read the temp for you. As for how it's read? There's a little temperature probe built into the devices. Almost everything in a computer now has it's own probe.

I use this awesome program called Everest Ultimate (That I just found out seems to have been discontinued, time to upgrade...) - and since I have 2 monitors, I have something like this available on my sidebar all the time:


[Image: tempsidebar.jpg]


Re: Weird temp readings on new processor - shoopfox - 06-18-2011

This is slightly unrelated but my 9800gt on startup had green vertical artifacts, even in BIOS. Windows disabled the card and the artifacting was still there, but after about 20 minutes the green stripes disappeared and I was able to uninstall and reinstall the card through device manager to get it working. Has anyone ever had this happen before?

Re: Weird temp readings on new processor - [fr31ns]Karrde - 06-20-2011

Also, if you're using stock coolers, don't.  The stock i series cooler is absolutely horrible.  In the first place, it doesn't work very well anyway, and second, the peg setup it has to seat it is really bad, and you need to get it EXACTLY right.  Get a coolermaster V8 or Corsair h50 (this what I have and it works great).  As for programs, I use Speedfan and coretemp.