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New Demo Format Coming Soon - backfire - 07-07-2009
Fresh off the Steamforums which took it fresh from an interview with Robin Walker.
Quote:TFPortal.de: In an E-Mail you mentioned a new demo type / format which you are developing. Many players have broken demo files after downloading new updates. Can you tell us a bit about it?
Robin Walker: It's getting close to being releasable in a beta form. The idea is that after you die or finish a round, and it was a round you were particularly happy with (maybe you scored an awesome kill, or saved the entire team with an ubercharge), you can ask the server to send you a demo of it. The server then sends you a demo that it recorded, which has the complete game state instead of just what your client saw, and it's in a format that's robust and won't break as easily when we update the game. In addition, the format has a some side benefits, like supporting full backwards & forwards time scrubbing.
Take that halo...
Re: New Demo Format Coming Soon - SAVAGE-0 - 07-07-2009
thats sick... hopw the file isnt too huge though... wonder how much resources it sucks outta the server too.
Re: New Demo Format Coming Soon - Radio Raheem - 07-07-2009
can you still record like normal? because source tv demos look like trash for say sniper shots. they dont look accurate at all
Re: New Demo Format Coming Soon - Neonie - 07-07-2009
(07-07-2009, 08:07 AM)backfire link Wrote: Fresh off the Steamforums which took it fresh from an interview with Robin Walker.
TFPortal.de Wrote:TFPortal.de: In an E-Mail you mentioned a new demo type / format which you are developing. Many players have broken demo files after downloading new updates. Can you tell us a bit about it?
Robin Walker: It's getting close to being releasable in a beta form. The idea is that after you die or finish a round, and it was a round you were particularly happy with (maybe you scored an awesome kill, or saved the entire team with an ubercharge), you can ask the server to send you a demo of it. The server then sends you a demo that it recorded, which has the complete game state instead of just what your client saw, and it's in a format that's robust and won't break as easily when we update the game. In addition, the format has a some side benefits, like supporting full backwards & forwards time scrubbing.
Take that halo...
What do you mean take that Halo? That's EXACTLY what Halo does...
Re: New Demo Format Coming Soon - CaffeinePowered - 07-07-2009
Id be more concerned about excess load on the server creating and sending these demos to players
Re: New Demo Format Coming Soon - Honest - 07-07-2009
(07-07-2009, 08:39 AM)Neonie-Sensei link Wrote: [quote author=backfire link=topic=3225.msg95238#msg95238 date=1246972022]
Fresh off the Steamforums which took it fresh from an interview with Robin Walker.
TFPortal.de Wrote:TFPortal.de: In an E-Mail you mentioned a new demo type / format which you are developing. Many players have broken demo files after downloading new updates. Can you tell us a bit about it?
Robin Walker: It's getting close to being releasable in a beta form. The idea is that after you die or finish a round, and it was a round you were particularly happy with (maybe you scored an awesome kill, or saved the entire team with an ubercharge), you can ask the server to send you a demo of it. The server then sends you a demo that it recorded, which has the complete game state instead of just what your client saw, and it's in a format that's robust and won't break as easily when we update the game. In addition, the format has a some side benefits, like supporting full backwards & forwards time scrubbing.
Take that halo...
What do you mean take that Halo? That's EXACTLY what Halo does...
[/quote]
Well it's not TF2 so take -that- Halo.
Also fucking sweet, I wonder if it can record voices or if that'd get too excessive.
Re: New Demo Format Coming Soon - KarthXLR - 07-07-2009
sweet :o
Re: New Demo Format Coming Soon - copulatingduck - 07-07-2009
(07-07-2009, 08:39 AM)Neonie-Sensei link Wrote: [quote author=backfire link=topic=3225.msg95238#msg95238 date=1246972022]
Fresh off the Steamforums which took it fresh from an interview with Robin Walker.
TFPortal.de Wrote:TFPortal.de: In an E-Mail you mentioned a new demo type / format which you are developing. Many players have broken demo files after downloading new updates. Can you tell us a bit about it?
Robin Walker: It's getting close to being releasable in a beta form. The idea is that after you die or finish a round, and it was a round you were particularly happy with (maybe you scored an awesome kill, or saved the entire team with an ubercharge), you can ask the server to send you a demo of it. The server then sends you a demo that it recorded, which has the complete game state instead of just what your client saw, and it's in a format that's robust and won't break as easily when we update the game. In addition, the format has a some side benefits, like supporting full backwards & forwards time scrubbing.
Take that halo...
What do you mean take that Halo? That's EXACTLY what Halo does...
[/quote]
No it's not. Halo is recorded client-side, and there's no forward and backwards time scrubbing. I hope there's an option to disable the feature since as far as I know even STV causes server framerates to drop. Still an amazing feature for match servers though
Re: New Demo Format Coming Soon - Neonie - 07-07-2009
(07-07-2009, 09:29 AM)CopulatingDuck link Wrote: [quote author=Neonie-Sensei link=topic=3225.msg95241#msg95241 date=1246973953]
[quote author=backfire link=topic=3225.msg95238#msg95238 date=1246972022]
Fresh off the Steamforums which took it fresh from an interview with Robin Walker.
TFPortal.de Wrote:TFPortal.de: In an E-Mail you mentioned a new demo type / format which you are developing. Many players have broken demo files after downloading new updates. Can you tell us a bit about it?
Robin Walker: It's getting close to being releasable in a beta form. The idea is that after you die or finish a round, and it was a round you were particularly happy with (maybe you scored an awesome kill, or saved the entire team with an ubercharge), you can ask the server to send you a demo of it. The server then sends you a demo that it recorded, which has the complete game state instead of just what your client saw, and it's in a format that's robust and won't break as easily when we update the game. In addition, the format has a some side benefits, like supporting full backwards & forwards time scrubbing.
Take that halo...
What do you mean take that Halo? That's EXACTLY what Halo does...
[/quote]
No it's not. Halo is recorded client-side, and there's no backwards time scrubbing. That's a pretty big deal since most developers find the backwards bit to be the hard part (most don't bother with it). That said, I hope there's an option to disable the feature since as far as I know even STV causes server framerates to drop. Still an amazing feature for match servers though
[/quote]
I'm actually not sure what time scrubbing is. I know it has this: "The server then sends you a demo that it recorded, which has the complete game state instead of just what your client saw". Which is what I was referring to being exactly like Halo.
Re: New Demo Format Coming Soon - at0m - 07-07-2009
(07-07-2009, 09:33 AM)Neonie-Sensei link Wrote: [quote author=CopulatingDuck link=topic=3225.msg95250#msg95250 date=1246976945]
[quote author=Neonie-Sensei link=topic=3225.msg95241#msg95241 date=1246973953]
[quote author=backfire link=topic=3225.msg95238#msg95238 date=1246972022]
Fresh off the Steamforums which took it fresh from an interview with Robin Walker.
TFPortal.de Wrote:TFPortal.de: In an E-Mail you mentioned a new demo type / format which you are developing. Many players have broken demo files after downloading new updates. Can you tell us a bit about it?
Robin Walker: It's getting close to being releasable in a beta form. The idea is that after you die or finish a round, and it was a round you were particularly happy with (maybe you scored an awesome kill, or saved the entire team with an ubercharge), you can ask the server to send you a demo of it. The server then sends you a demo that it recorded, which has the complete game state instead of just what your client saw, and it's in a format that's robust and won't break as easily when we update the game. In addition, the format has a some side benefits, like supporting full backwards & forwards time scrubbing.
Take that halo...
What do you mean take that Halo? That's EXACTLY what Halo does...
[/quote]
No it's not. Halo is recorded client-side, and there's no backwards time scrubbing. That's a pretty big deal since most developers find the backwards bit to be the hard part (most don't bother with it). That said, I hope there's an option to disable the feature since as far as I know even STV causes server framerates to drop. Still an amazing feature for match servers though
[/quote]
I'm actually not sure what time scrubbing is. I know it has this: "The server then sends you a demo that it recorded, which has the complete game state instead of just what your client saw". Which is what I was referring to being exactly like Halo.
[/quote]Time scrubbing == actually having fast forward and rewind butans work?
Re: New Demo Format Coming Soon - Neonie - 07-07-2009
(07-07-2009, 09:37 AM)at0m link Wrote: [quote author=Neonie-Sensei link=topic=3225.msg95251#msg95251 date=1246977209]
[quote author=CopulatingDuck link=topic=3225.msg95250#msg95250 date=1246976945]
[quote author=Neonie-Sensei link=topic=3225.msg95241#msg95241 date=1246973953]
[quote author=backfire link=topic=3225.msg95238#msg95238 date=1246972022]
Fresh off the Steamforums which took it fresh from an interview with Robin Walker.
TFPortal.de Wrote:TFPortal.de: In an E-Mail you mentioned a new demo type / format which you are developing. Many players have broken demo files after downloading new updates. Can you tell us a bit about it?
Robin Walker: It's getting close to being releasable in a beta form. The idea is that after you die or finish a round, and it was a round you were particularly happy with (maybe you scored an awesome kill, or saved the entire team with an ubercharge), you can ask the server to send you a demo of it. The server then sends you a demo that it recorded, which has the complete game state instead of just what your client saw, and it's in a format that's robust and won't break as easily when we update the game. In addition, the format has a some side benefits, like supporting full backwards & forwards time scrubbing.
Take that halo...
What do you mean take that Halo? That's EXACTLY what Halo does...
[/quote]
No it's not. Halo is recorded client-side, and there's no backwards time scrubbing. That's a pretty big deal since most developers find the backwards bit to be the hard part (most don't bother with it). That said, I hope there's an option to disable the feature since as far as I know even STV causes server framerates to drop. Still an amazing feature for match servers though
[/quote]
I'm actually not sure what time scrubbing is. I know it has this: "The server then sends you a demo that it recorded, which has the complete game state instead of just what your client saw". Which is what I was referring to being exactly like Halo.
[/quote]Time scrubbing == actually having fast forward and rewind butans work?
[/quote]
They have that in Halo too
Re: New Demo Format Coming Soon - at0m - 07-07-2009
(07-07-2009, 09:39 AM)Neonie-Sensei link Wrote: [quote author=at0m link=topic=3225.msg95254#msg95254 date=1246977451]
[quote author=Neonie-Sensei link=topic=3225.msg95251#msg95251 date=1246977209]
[quote author=CopulatingDuck link=topic=3225.msg95250#msg95250 date=1246976945]
[quote author=Neonie-Sensei link=topic=3225.msg95241#msg95241 date=1246973953]
[quote author=backfire link=topic=3225.msg95238#msg95238 date=1246972022]
Fresh off the Steamforums which took it fresh from an interview with Robin Walker.
TFPortal.de Wrote:TFPortal.de: In an E-Mail you mentioned a new demo type / format which you are developing. Many players have broken demo files after downloading new updates. Can you tell us a bit about it?
Robin Walker: It's getting close to being releasable in a beta form. The idea is that after you die or finish a round, and it was a round you were particularly happy with (maybe you scored an awesome kill, or saved the entire team with an ubercharge), you can ask the server to send you a demo of it. The server then sends you a demo that it recorded, which has the complete game state instead of just what your client saw, and it's in a format that's robust and won't break as easily when we update the game. In addition, the format has a some side benefits, like supporting full backwards & forwards time scrubbing.
Take that halo...
What do you mean take that Halo? That's EXACTLY what Halo does...
[/quote]
No it's not. Halo is recorded client-side, and there's no backwards time scrubbing. That's a pretty big deal since most developers find the backwards bit to be the hard part (most don't bother with it). That said, I hope there's an option to disable the feature since as far as I know even STV causes server framerates to drop. Still an amazing feature for match servers though
[/quote]
I'm actually not sure what time scrubbing is. I know it has this: "The server then sends you a demo that it recorded, which has the complete game state instead of just what your client saw". Which is what I was referring to being exactly like Halo.
[/quote]Time scrubbing == actually having fast forward and rewind butans work?
[/quote]
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[/quote]Die in a fucking fire, I'm not talking about fucking HALO, I'm talking about the fucking announcement and the debate about WTF time-scrubbing is.
Re: New Demo Format Coming Soon - at0m - 07-07-2009
double post FTL
Re: New Demo Format Coming Soon - Neonie - 07-07-2009
(07-07-2009, 09:42 AM)at0m link Wrote: [quote author=Neonie-Sensei link=topic=3225.msg95256#msg95256 date=1246977565]
[quote author=at0m link=topic=3225.msg95254#msg95254 date=1246977451]
[quote author=Neonie-Sensei link=topic=3225.msg95251#msg95251 date=1246977209]
[quote author=CopulatingDuck link=topic=3225.msg95250#msg95250 date=1246976945]
[quote author=Neonie-Sensei link=topic=3225.msg95241#msg95241 date=1246973953]
[quote author=backfire link=topic=3225.msg95238#msg95238 date=1246972022]
Fresh off the Steamforums which took it fresh from an interview with Robin Walker.
TFPortal.de Wrote:TFPortal.de: In an E-Mail you mentioned a new demo type / format which you are developing. Many players have broken demo files after downloading new updates. Can you tell us a bit about it?
Robin Walker: It's getting close to being releasable in a beta form. The idea is that after you die or finish a round, and it was a round you were particularly happy with (maybe you scored an awesome kill, or saved the entire team with an ubercharge), you can ask the server to send you a demo of it. The server then sends you a demo that it recorded, which has the complete game state instead of just what your client saw, and it's in a format that's robust and won't break as easily when we update the game. In addition, the format has a some side benefits, like supporting full backwards & forwards time scrubbing.
Take that halo...
What do you mean take that Halo? That's EXACTLY what Halo does...
[/quote]
No it's not. Halo is recorded client-side, and there's no backwards time scrubbing. That's a pretty big deal since most developers find the backwards bit to be the hard part (most don't bother with it). That said, I hope there's an option to disable the feature since as far as I know even STV causes server framerates to drop. Still an amazing feature for match servers though
[/quote]
I'm actually not sure what time scrubbing is. I know it has this: "The server then sends you a demo that it recorded, which has the complete game state instead of just what your client saw". Which is what I was referring to being exactly like Halo.
[/quote]Time scrubbing == actually having fast forward and rewind butans work?
[/quote]
HALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALOHALO
[/quote]Die in a fucking fire, I'm not talking about fucking HALO, I'm talking about the fucking announcement and the debate about WTF time-scrubbing is.
[/quote]
Lol rage much?
Re: New Demo Format Coming Soon - Radio Raheem - 07-07-2009
haha did you just rage so hard you double posted? NICE
Re: New Demo Format Coming Soon - copulatingduck - 07-07-2009
Time scrubbing
Re: New Demo Format Coming Soon - Blues - 07-07-2009
Did at0m just rage himself into a double post? DO HO HO HO GOOD THING THAT
IM2GUEWD
FOR DOUBLE POSTING
and Halo, because it sucks dick.
Re: New Demo Format Coming Soon - zaneyard - 07-07-2009
halo doesnt time scrub
this new thing for tf2 supposedly does
nuff said
Re: New Demo Format Coming Soon - WTF Joel - 07-07-2009
everything > Halo
Re: New Demo Format Coming Soon - backfire - 07-07-2009
(07-07-2009, 05:52 PM)Metal Lemur Solid link Wrote: everything > Halo