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Everyone should see this - Surf314 - 07-09-2008
http://www.wegame.com/watch/TF2_Hitboxes/
This video is a bit misleading but will at least let you see some of the challenges created by lag, if your curious go to the following:
http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Source_Multiplayer_Networking
http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Lag_Compensation
Lag compensation is on by default in TF2
Re: Everyone should see this - jdub28 - 07-09-2008
Well that sucks, I konw Ive given people a bloody head with the sniper, and they didnt die but I didnt think it was this bad. Maybe it isnt the unusual, Ive never seen another games hitboxes shown like that (except fighters where I study hit boxes RELIGIOUSLY).
Re: Everyone should see this - ainmosni - 07-09-2008
This is quite typical for a source game... it's mostly to counteract lag and it works for that. This is a hard problem to tackle.
Re: Everyone should see this - jdub28 - 07-09-2008
Did the connection issue get fixed? I know there was an update, but all I heard was that it fixed the intel falling through the floor (happens in 2fort all the time).
Re: Everyone should see this - HuckBerryGee - 07-09-2008
knowing all source games ahave this problem, I'm not even a bit surprised, for the number of times I died behind a wall as a scout and having a backstab not work as a spy. I this last concern, this is why a pyro owns so much now with the backburner, because it barely relies on it.
Re: Everyone should see this - NiceGuy - 07-09-2008
So do we have the lag compensation on or off on our servers?
Re: Everyone should see this - Surf314 - 07-09-2008
(07-09-2008, 09:08 AM)NiceGuy link Wrote: So do we have the lag compensation on or off on our servers?
It's a client side variable, so you set it on your machine. I don't know if it is on by default or not though ???
Re: Everyone should see this - NiceGuy - 07-09-2008
(07-09-2008, 09:18 AM)Surf314 link Wrote: [quote author=NiceGuy link=topic=778.msg20065#msg20065 date=1215612510]
So do we have the lag compensation on or off on our servers?
It's a client side variable, so you set it on your machine. I don't know if it is on by default or not though ???
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Oh. That's good to know. Can I run the command in the console or do I need to put it into a text file somewhere (and if so, where)?
Re: Everyone should see this - korkesh - 07-09-2008
this video is slightly misleading as he is playing in a lag free enviroment and the commands are meant for a typical server play.
http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Source_Multiplayer_Networking
this may explain a little better.
Re: Everyone should see this - ainmosni - 07-09-2008
(07-09-2008, 08:15 AM)jdub28 link Wrote: Did the connection issue get fixed? I know there was an update, but all I heard was that it fixed the intel falling through the floor (happens in 2fort all the time).
It should be fixed, havent played since. It was in the release notes though.
Re: Everyone should see this - Surf314 - 07-09-2008
(07-09-2008, 09:29 AM)korkesh link Wrote: this video is slightly misleading as he is playing in a lag free enviroment and the commands are meant for a typical server play.
http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Source_Multiplayer_Networking
this may explain a little better.
It seems that lag compensation is already on by default, so this video seems to be at least presented in such a way to create controversy.
But if you want to make sure type "cl_lagcompensation 1" in your console.
Re: Everyone should see this - copulatingduck - 07-09-2008
(07-09-2008, 09:43 AM)Surf314 link Wrote: [quote author=korkesh link=topic=778.msg20072#msg20072 date=1215613744]
this video is slightly misleading as he is playing in a lag free enviroment and the commands are meant for a typical server play.
http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Source_Multiplayer_Networking
this may explain a little better.
It seems that lag compensation is already on by default, so this THREAD seems to have been created in such a way to create controversy.
I'm a stupid homo
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Glad you admitted you were wrong 8)
Re: Everyone should see this - Surf314 - 07-09-2008
I don't like it when duck posts without getting a good night's sleep.
Also you will notice I edited the top post to reflect all the new information.
Re: Everyone should see this - Neonie - 07-09-2008
That explains so much...
Re: Everyone should see this - cbre88x - 07-09-2008
Sigh..this already happened with CS:S. People just wanting attention by creating controversy. There is nothing wrong with the damn hitboxes.
Re: Everyone should see this - hawtpawkithero - 07-09-2008
Now if only gears of war could get this... :
Re: Everyone should see this - WTF Joel - 07-09-2008
the hitboxes are a bit fucked, cause I have headshotted people, and there is blood on the model, but it did not even hurt them o.o