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So, how about this for a non-budget build. - hawtpawkithero - 06-21-2008

Instead of an iMac, how about this build:

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=6896105

It still has a 24 inch monitor, and it's even more powerful.
Anything you guys would suggest needs changing for me to get more bang to the buck?

Re: So, how about this for a non-budget build. - rumsfald - 06-21-2008

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Whoa, moneybags.  If bang for your buck is your goal, that's quite a bit overkill.  For value parts, see the build a rig thread.






Re: So, how about this for a non-budget build. - hawtpawkithero - 06-21-2008

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1500 isn't terrible for a high end build.
I built my current build 3 years ago for 1500, and it came with a 19 inch monitor and 7600GS SLI... and an AMD athlon 3500+
Still manages Was able to run Team Fortress 2 on full settings at about 40 fps.
The build even included a surround sound system (5.1)

Re: So, how about this for a non-budget build. - rumsfald - 06-21-2008

Wow, those parts are like twice as better as a good portion of brbu.  Can't you salvage/reuse any?

And I'm not sure the jump from 19" to 24" is necessary, unless you plan on using the display for other things.

Re: So, how about this for a non-budget build. - hawtpawkithero - 06-21-2008

(06-21-2008, 11:06 PM)rumsfald link Wrote: Wow, those parts are like twice as better as a good portion of brbu.  Can't you salvage/reuse any?

And I'm not sure the jump from 19" to 24" is necessary, unless you plan on using the display for other things.


Well I plan on buying a bluray drive later on so they'd look awesome on the 24 inch display.

I will also reuse a couple of parts from my old system too, like my wireless card and sound card, dvd drive and probably some other stuff.

Re: So, how about this for a non-budget build. - copulatingduck - 06-21-2008

I would advise against getting the 1TB drive. Get 2 smaller drives instead. The >>500GB drives have been having much higher failure rates so far  :/

(not that I can see a need for 1TB unless you're doing video editting; if it's simply for backup, I doubly suggest multiple smaller drives in RAID 1)

Quad cores are mostly for suckers with more money than sense, spend the same amount of money on a dual core instead and you'll most likely be a LOT happier with your performance. But if you know you can actually utilize all 4 cores, go for it, I know I couldn't.

edit: At the very least go with Seagate. They've got a better 5-yr warranty on their drives than the 3-yr WD offers. Warranties are the most under-appreciated bit when people buy hardware :/

Re: So, how about this for a non-budget build. - Eschatos - 06-21-2008

(06-21-2008, 11:35 PM)copulatingduck link Wrote: I would advise against getting the 1TB drive. Get 2 smaller drives instead. The >>500GB drives have been having much higher failure rates so far  :/

(not that I can see a need for 1TB unless you're doing video editting; if it's simply for backup, I doubly suggest multiple smaller drives in RAID 1)
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I have problems with hard drives.  It's not that they fail, it's that I always run out of space and have to buy more.  Right now I have about 30 gigs left on the 320 gig hard drive I bought in March.  I'm thinking of getting at least 500 for my next one.

Re: So, how about this for a non-budget build. - copulatingduck - 06-21-2008

(06-21-2008, 11:40 PM)Eschatos link Wrote: [quote author=copulatingduck link=topic=603.msg14839#msg14839 date=1214109346]
I would advise against getting the 1TB drive. Get 2 smaller drives instead. The >>500GB drives have been having much higher failure rates so far  :/

(not that I can see a need for 1TB unless you're doing video editting; if it's simply for backup, I doubly suggest multiple smaller drives in RAID 1)
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I have problems with hard drives.  It's not that they fail, it's that I always run out of space and have to buy more.  Right now I have about 30 gigs left on the 320 gig hard drive I bought in March.  I'm thinking of getting at least 500 for my next one.
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wut u put on them? Jack Thompson videos in aaaayyycche-ddeeee?

Re: So, how about this for a non-budget build. - Geoff - 06-22-2008

(06-21-2008, 11:41 PM)copulatingduck link Wrote: [quote author=Eschatos link=topic=603.msg14841#msg14841 date=1214109601]
[quote author=copulatingduck link=topic=603.msg14839#msg14839 date=1214109346]
I would advise against getting the 1TB drive. Get 2 smaller drives instead. The >>500GB drives have been having much higher failure rates so far  :/

(not that I can see a need for 1TB unless you're doing video editting; if it's simply for backup, I doubly suggest multiple smaller drives in RAID 1)
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I have problems with hard drives.  It's not that they fail, it's that I always run out of space and have to buy more.  Right now I have about 30 gigs left on the 320 gig hard drive I bought in March.  I'm thinking of getting at least 500 for my next one.
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wut u put on them? Jack Thompson videos in aaaayyycche-ddeeee?
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Re: So, how about this for a non-budget build. - Vandamguy - 06-22-2008

nigga doesnt burn his warez to dvd

Re: So, how about this for a non-budget build. - Wedge - 06-22-2008

That computer is only marginally better than mine is going to be.

And costs 3x as much. 

So whatever, if you got money to burn I guess.

And if you're gonna go that high, at least get a 9800

Re: So, how about this for a non-budget build. - hawtpawkithero - 06-22-2008

(06-22-2008, 01:44 AM)Wedge link Wrote: That computer is only marginally better than mine is going to be.

And costs 3x as much. 

So whatever, if you got money to burn I guess.

And if you're gonna go that high, at least get a 9800
so, have anything useful to say?
like what parts you will put into this magical 500 dollar system?

Re: So, how about this for a non-budget build. - Wedge - 06-22-2008

(06-22-2008, 02:40 AM)hawtpawkithero link Wrote: [quote author=Wedge link=topic=603.msg14866#msg14866 date=1214117096]
That computer is only marginally better than mine is going to be.

And costs 3x as much. 

So whatever, if you got money to burn I guess.

And if you're gonna go that high, at least get a 9800
so, have anything useful to say?
like what parts you will put into this magical 500 dollar system?
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This is just a random example to show you what you can get with that kind of price range.  I think I'm getting stuff like the case and all that for free with mine, but seriously, you can get a really nice system for $700 range.  And paying $400 for a monitor is dumb when you can pick up an awesome professional CRT with better image quality than any LCD for $20-50 off Craigslist <3.  I'm a superjew when it comes to buying stuff though, so if you can afford nicer sleeker stuff then go for it.

Re: So, how about this for a non-budget build. - ZoSo - 06-22-2008

(06-21-2008, 10:54 PM)hawtpawkithero link Wrote: Instead of an iMac, how about this build:

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=6896105

It still has a 24 inch monitor, and it's even more powerful.
Anything you guys would suggest needs changing for me to get more bang to the buck?

First off the Q6600 isn't your best choice for a gaming processor, dual core is still the sweet spot.  Unless multitasking is a huge part of your computer usage and you are on Vista, I would get a faster dual core if you just want to game.

Also are you sure you want to go the TN Panel route for your monitor?  S-PVA looks so much better and the technology has finally caught TN in terms of response time.  However S-PVA normally cost at least 2x as much, so this is a budget question. I use TN Panels every day at work and I go home to my S-PVA, it's like night and day.

The GPU is a good choice for a budget, I have the same card and it screams.  If you want information on overclocking and/or volt-modding the G92 just let me know.

Why are yall calling him money bags?  This is a pretty common build budget.

Also to the guy recommending the 9800GTX, have you ever looked at the specs?  It is the EXACT same video card that he is already getting.



Re: So, how about this for a non-budget build. - rumsfald - 06-22-2008

(06-22-2008, 09:50 AM)ZoSo link Wrote: Why are yall calling him money bags?  This is a pretty common build budget.

In the first thread he started, HPH was considering having his parents buy an iMac for him to game on so he could save money.  So to go from a budget of $0 to $1,500 is a pretty big leap, hence the joke.

I'm think spending all that time scoped in has ruined your ability to spot sarcasm.

Re: So, how about this for a non-budget build. - hawtpawkithero - 06-22-2008

(06-22-2008, 09:50 AM)ZoSo link Wrote: [quote author=hawtpawkithero link=topic=603.msg14826#msg14826 date=1214106859]
Instead of an iMac, how about this build:

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=6896105

It still has a 24 inch monitor, and it's even more powerful.
Anything you guys would suggest needs changing for me to get more bang to the buck?

First off the Q6600 isn't your best choice for a gaming processor, dual core is still the sweet spot.  Unless multitasking is a huge part of your computer usage and you are on Vista, I would get a faster dual core if you just want to game.

Also are you sure you want to go the TN Panel route for your monitor?  S-PVA looks so much better and the technology has finally caught TN in terms of response time.  However S-PVA normally cost at least 2x as much, so this is a budget question. I use TN Panels every day at work and I go home to my S-PVA, it's like night and day.

The GPU is a good choice for a budget, I have the same card and it screams.  If you want information on overclocking and/or volt-modding the G92 just let me know.

Why are yall calling him money bags?  This is a pretty common build budget.

Also to the guy recommending the 9800GTX, have you ever looked at the specs?  It is the EXACT same video card that he is already getting.


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Changing the processor now... What do you mean by the monitor stuff? I've never heard of that kind of specifications on LCD monitors before.

Re: So, how about this for a non-budget build. - ZoSo - 06-22-2008

(06-22-2008, 11:52 AM)hawtpawkithero link Wrote: [quote author=ZoSo link=topic=603.msg14884#msg14884 date=1214146248]
[quote author=hawtpawkithero link=topic=603.msg14826#msg14826 date=1214106859]
Instead of an iMac, how about this build:

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=6896105

It still has a 24 inch monitor, and it's even more powerful.
Anything you guys would suggest needs changing for me to get more bang to the buck?

First off the Q6600 isn't your best choice for a gaming processor, dual core is still the sweet spot.  Unless multitasking is a huge part of your computer usage and you are on Vista, I would get a faster dual core if you just want to game.

Also are you sure you want to go the TN Panel route for your monitor?  S-PVA looks so much better and the technology has finally caught TN in terms of response time.  However S-PVA normally cost at least 2x as much, so this is a budget question. I use TN Panels every day at work and I go home to my S-PVA, it's like night and day.

The GPU is a good choice for a budget, I have the same card and it screams.  If you want information on overclocking and/or volt-modding the G92 just let me know.

Why are yall calling him money bags?  This is a pretty common build budget.

Also to the guy recommending the 9800GTX, have you ever looked at the specs?  It is the EXACT same video card that he is already getting.


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Changing the processor now... What do you mean by the monitor stuff? I've never heard of that kind of specifications on LCD monitors before.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TFT_LCD

Quote:PVA (patterned vertical alignment) and S-PVA (super patterned vertical alignment) are alternative versions of MVA technology offered by Samsung. Developed independently, they offer similar features to MVA, but with higher contrast ratios of up to 3000:1. Less expensive PVA panels often use dithering and FRC, while S-PVA panels all use at least 8-bit color and do not use color simulation methods. Some newer S-PVA panels offered by Eizo offer 10-bit color internally, which enables gamma and other corrections with reduced banding. PVA and S-PVA offer good black depth and wide viewing angles and S-PVA also offers fast response times using modern RTC technologies.

There you will find info on all the types (TN, PVA, S-PVA, etc)

Basically S-PVA gives a superior picture due to it being a 8bit display (not 6) and most support 1080p Hi-Def content (in the 24"+ range), mine even has a HDMI port that I use with my HD Cable Box.



Re: So, how about this for a non-budget build. - hawtpawkithero - 06-22-2008

Updated:
Same link: http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=6896105
I replaced alot of the expensive parts with cheaper, arguably better, parts.
I also downgraded the 24 inch monitor to a 22, but upped the 8800GTS to a 9800GX2 (the dual core one X3)
It may be a couple dollars less than the original build, too.

EDIT: I also added a DVI cable for my older monitor (it supports DVI, but it's using VGA) so I can use dual monitors.
Perhaps a reason to start playing SupCom again?

Re: So, how about this for a non-budget build. - Geoff - 06-22-2008

Where the fuck do you get this kind of money?  My parents refuse to buy me ANYTHING

Re: So, how about this for a non-budget build. - CaffeinePowered - 06-22-2008

(06-22-2008, 12:31 PM)Geoff link Wrote: Where the fuck do you get this kind of money?  My parents refuse to buy me ANYTHING

Graduation gift?