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Overheating problem - Maxon - 10-06-2008

Well I got my PC all installed, but I think I'm having some issues with something overheating.  Was playing STALKER: Clear Sky when the PC restarted.  Turned Speedfan on right after and it was showing around 50+ for most of the temps.

Right now after everything has winded down...

System: 40C
CPU: 46C
AUX: -42C
HD0: 35C
Core 0: 44C
Core 1: 44C

I know I had a tad bit of trouble making sure the heatsink was completely on (The little push and turn things on the heatsink are annoyingly stupid), but I think only one corner wasn't completely connected.  Would that lead to overheating the CPU though?


Re: Overheating problem - Versus - 10-06-2008

How is 50+ a problem?


Re: Overheating problem - CaffeinePowered - 10-06-2008

(10-06-2008, 08:50 PM)Versus-pwny- link Wrote: How is 50+ a problem?

On a CPU is is a problem, a GPU's architecture can withstand higher levels of heat than a CPU


Re: Overheating problem - Maxon - 10-06-2008

I was just going with the little fire symbols next to the temperatures lol


Re: Overheating problem - CaffeinePowered - 10-06-2008

(10-06-2008, 09:24 PM)Maxon link Wrote: I was just going with the little fire symbols next to the temperatures lol

Open your case, stick a box fan next to it and see what happens Smile


Re: Overheating problem - zaneyard - 10-06-2008

(10-06-2008, 09:27 PM)CaffeinePowered link Wrote: [quote author=Maxon link=topic=1550.msg43205#msg43205 date=1223346240]
I was just going with the little fire symbols next to the temperatures lol

Open your case, stick a box fan next to it and see what happens Smile
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i figured perm. attaching an air conditioner to your box would be the best cooling solution, has anyone ever tried it?


Re: Overheating problem - Mission Difficult - 10-06-2008

There is a case out there with a miniature air conditioner built into it. I think it's from Cooler Master? It's supposedly pretty loud though.


Re: Overheating problem - HeK - 10-06-2008

As I am sitting here, running idle with ~24o room temp:

CPU: 54
GPU: 52
Case: 29
HDD: 28


When I play games my CPU hits 65ish and my gpu hits well over 70 before I have problems.... but my PC is uber-fucked; don't ask.

Try turning off automatic reboots (press WindowsKey+Pause, click Advanced, Startup and Recovery, uncheck 'Automatically restart', ok, reboot) and see if you get a BSOD when you are playing.

If your PC freezes then I can see heat. If it reboots then there is possibly a different error and you may get an error message. If not, x2 on the box fan.


Re: Overheating problem - IdiotWithGuns - 10-07-2008

We are going to give a way a thermal compound which brings your temps down to as low as they should be.
Keep your eye open.  Drawing will start sometime this week.Smile



Re: Overheating problem - WTF Joel - 10-07-2008

(10-06-2008, 09:27 PM)CaffeinePowered link Wrote: [quote author=Maxon link=topic=1550.msg43205#msg43205 date=1223346240]
I was just going with the little fire symbols next to the temperatures lol

Open your case, stick a box fan next to it and see what happens Smile
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This is what I did, works great x3


Re: Overheating problem - Maxon - 10-07-2008

Well I tried the box fan idea and went to play some STALKER, but again I got a restart.  Turned on Speed Fan afterwards and it was showing 74 for the CPU and 60's for Core 0 and Core 1, so it was actually worse I think unless I caught it on the down slope of the cooling before when starting up Speed Fan lol

I'll try turning off the restart and see what that brings.


Re: Overheating problem - Maxon - 10-07-2008

Well don't know if I played long enough to get any problems.  Played for half an hour to an hour or so, but got a STALKER crash before a system overheat lol

But I did check Speedfan and it had 80 for CPU and 74 for Core 0 and 1. 


Re: Overheating problem - copulatingduck - 10-07-2008

OMG THAT'S WAY TOO HOT! STOP NOW!

What did you do for thermal compound? Did you apply your own? If so, did you put WAY too much. The amount should literally be a pea-drop at most. If you went with factory applied paste, did you touch it with your fingers or something? If so, you gotta scrape it off, clean the surface with alcohol, and start over. Remember, pea-drop at most. Is your heatsink even going? Is it a stock heatsink or a 3rd party heatsink? Gotta know dude, 80°C is WAY TOO HOT.


Re: Overheating problem - Maxon - 10-07-2008

(10-07-2008, 09:08 PM)CopulatingDuck link Wrote: OMG THAT'S WAY TOO HOT! STOP NOW!

What did you do for thermal compound? Did you apply your own? If so, did you put WAY too much. The amount should literally be a pea-drop at most. If you went with factory applied paste, did you touch it with your fingers or something? If so, you gotta scrape it off, clean the surface with alcohol, and start over. Remember, pea-drop at most. Is your heatsink even going? Is it a stock heatsink or a 3rd party heatsink? Gotta know dude, 80°C is WAY TOO HOT.

I'm thinking that the thin little strips that were on the fan may not be touching completely or is not working.  The fan had a slightly squarish design of gray on it and was told that it was the probably the thermal since none came with it.  And I didn't touch anything there.  I think I'll save on gaming till I can get some paste to redo it to make sure that is the problem or double check that the heatsink is firmly attached.

I know the fan is working cause I can see it spinning and it is the stock heatsink that came with the processor.


Re: Overheating problem - copulatingduck - 10-07-2008

Yea, stock heatsinks come with some paste pre-applied. The paste looks like a gray square. You sure proper pressure is applied, and that there's clean contact between the heatsink and CPU? Also, once you let the paste touch the CPU, did you break the seal for any reason? If so, you should have probably reapplied paste. :-\


Re: Overheating problem - Maxon - 10-07-2008

(10-07-2008, 09:25 PM)CopulatingDuck link Wrote: Yea, stock heatsinks come with some paste pre-applied. The paste looks like a gray square. You sure proper pressure is applied, and that there's clean contact between the heatsink and CPU? Also, once you let the paste touch the CPU, did you break the seal for any reason? If so, you should have probably reapplied paste. :-\

Good chance that is the problem since the heatsink was annoying to get attached.  I just went and removed it and it looks like the paste was smushed one side, but not completely on the other, meaning it probably wasn't making full contact and I'll have to redo it and get it proper this time.

So scrape it off, rubbing alcohol, and then a pea sized dab.  Then just attach it and let the paste spread with the pressure or should be done before attaching to a certain size?


Re: Overheating problem - copulatingduck - 10-07-2008

Should get spread out from the pressure. Good luck, if you got other questions or need help, post it. Oh, and make sure you clean the heatsink and cpu.


Re: Overheating problem - Maxon - 10-08-2008

Forgot to ask if I need to give the paste some time to sit or if it is good to go once it is attached.


Re: Overheating problem - CaffeinePowered - 10-08-2008

(10-07-2008, 09:39 PM)CopulatingDuck link Wrote: Should get spread out from the pressure. Good luck, if you got other questions or need help, post it. Oh, and make sure you clean the heatsink and cpu.

No way, spread it like you would nail polish across the whole back of the processor, a thin coat.

With AMD processors you put the heatsink on at an angle, if you did this it would spread in the pea sized dot one way and not the other.


Re: Overheating problem - Maxon - 10-08-2008

(10-08-2008, 02:13 PM)CaffeinePowered link Wrote: [quote author=CopulatingDuck link=topic=1550.msg43326#msg43326 date=1223433580]
Should get spread out from the pressure. Good luck, if you got other questions or need help, post it. Oh, and make sure you clean the heatsink and cpu.

No way, spread it like you would nail polish across the whole back of the processor, a thin coat.

With AMD processors you put the heatsink on at an angle, if you did this it would spread in the pea sized dot one way and not the other.
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But I have an Intel and the heatsink goes straight on.