Deus-Ex 3 Info and Discussion thread.

[Ianki]

I was going to do a no-kill run, then bought the punching-through-walls aug and accidentally snapped someone's neck. Fuck.

I heard in a review that you can't do a no kill run, that there were sudo-boss fights that forced you to kill your targets.


Like in the first one, i think you had to kill Anna at some point, right? either her or the NSF leader i thought

[Squishy3]

[quote author=at0m link=topic=1537.msg220349#msg220349 date=1314375983]
I was going to do a no-kill run, then bought the punching-through-walls aug and accidentally snapped someone's neck. Fuck.

I heard in a review that you can't do a no kill run, that there were sudo-boss fights that forced you to kill your targets.


Like in the first one, i think you had to kill Anna at some point, right? either her or the NSF leader i thought
[/quote]This was addressed  before the game came out in a preview or interview, they said you could do a no-kill run except for either the final boss or the bosses, i don't remember

[backfire]

[quote author=Ianki link=topic=1537.msg220379#msg220379 date=1314384695]
[quote author=at0m link=topic=1537.msg220349#msg220349 date=1314375983]
I was going to do a no-kill run, then bought the punching-through-walls aug and accidentally snapped someone's neck. Fuck.

I heard in a review that you can't do a no kill run, that there were sudo-boss fights that forced you to kill your targets.


Like in the first one, i think you had to kill Anna at some point, right? either her or the NSF leader i thought
[/quote]This was addressed  before the game came out in a preview or interview, they said you could do a no-kill run except for either the final boss or the bosses, i don't remember
[/quote]

Yeah the Pacifist achievement doesn't apply to bosses. That said, building a character up for stealth/small firefights only to get someone with a minigun arm thrown at you is kind of a dick move.

[Eschatos]

[quote author=Squishy link=topic=1537.msg220381#msg220381 date=1314385129]
[quote author=Ianki link=topic=1537.msg220379#msg220379 date=1314384695]
[quote author=at0m link=topic=1537.msg220349#msg220349 date=1314375983]
I was going to do a no-kill run, then bought the punching-through-walls aug and accidentally snapped someone's neck. Fuck.

I heard in a review that you can't do a no kill run, that there were sudo-boss fights that forced you to kill your targets.


Like in the first one, i think you had to kill Anna at some point, right? either her or the NSF leader i thought
[/quote]This was addressed  before the game came out in a preview or interview, they said you could do a no-kill run except for either the final boss or the bosses, i don't remember
[/quote]

Yeah the Pacifist achievement doesn't apply to bosses. That said, building a character up for stealth/small firefights only to get someone with a minigun arm thrown at you is kind of a dick move.[/quote]

I just stole a rocket launcher from the previous mission where you have to turn off the satellite transmission, and 4 rockets were enough to kill the boss.  Also [spoiler]technically he blows himself up at the end of the fight so you don't really kill him.[/spoiler]  So far I've gotten no kills.

[at0m]

[quote author=at0m link=topic=1537.msg220349#msg220349 date=1314375983]
I was going to do a no-kill run, then bought the punching-through-walls aug and accidentally snapped someone's neck. Fuck.

Load to a previous save before you got that aug?
[/quote]It was the third time I used the aug, I'd already quicksaved and autosaved and didn't want to redo over an hour's work. I had to tranq an entire gang from a rooftop just to get into the building, then had it screwed up by a guard who walked into the wrong place at the wrong time. I was planning on Kool-Aiding then nailing him with the Stun Gun or a no-kill Takedown before he could react.

I might still go back and redo it, I dunno. I think the icarus probably would've been a better choice than the wall-punch thing, since it's got a stun move.

[Didzo]

[quote author=Didzo link=topic=1537.msg220368#msg220368 date=1314379660]
[quote author=at0m link=topic=1537.msg220349#msg220349 date=1314375983]
I was going to do a no-kill run, then bought the punching-through-walls aug and accidentally snapped someone's neck. Fuck.

Load to a previous save before you got that aug?
[/quote]It was the third time I used the aug, I'd already quicksaved and autosaved and didn't want to redo over an hour's work. I had to tranq an entire gang from a rooftop just to get into the building, then had it screwed up by a guard who walked into the wrong place at the wrong time. I was planning on Kool-Aiding then nailing him with the Stun Gun or a no-kill Takedown before he could react.

I might still go back and redo it, I dunno. I think the icarus probably would've been a better choice than the wall-punch thing, since it's got a stun move.
[/quote]

Re-do it.

Also, invisibility is a good investment.

[KorJax]

Just got pass the big server room in Tai Yong Medical where all the lasers are everywhere. Not only is this level already bad-ass, but I go into this room, jump around between the lasers like a goddamn BAD ASS, find a vent, sneak into the security terminal area, tranq the desk guard and do a doulbe take down on the two security guards in there before shutting off the whole laser and security system in this tighly controlled sterile room.

I then proceeed to walk into the center of said server room and walk twoards the exit like a total BAD ASS MOTHER FUCKER

Probably my favorite part of the game so far.

[Surf314]

[quote author=Didzo link=topic=1537.msg220368#msg220368 date=1314379660]
[quote author=at0m link=topic=1537.msg220349#msg220349 date=1314375983]
I was going to do a no-kill run, then bought the punching-through-walls aug and accidentally snapped someone's neck. Fuck.

Load to a previous save before you got that aug?
[/quote]It was the third time I used the aug, I'd already quicksaved and autosaved and didn't want to redo over an hour's work. I had to tranq an entire gang from a rooftop just to get into the building, then had it screwed up by a guard who walked into the wrong place at the wrong time. I was planning on Kool-Aiding then nailing him with the Stun Gun or a no-kill Takedown before he could react.

I might still go back and redo it, I dunno. I think the icarus probably would've been a better choice than the wall-punch thing, since it's got a stun move.
[/quote]

I'm in the same boat. The problem is there are paths that you have to punch through walls and snap necks to get to. I don't think I'm anal enough to redo everything and find new paths just to have a completely no-kill play-through.

[at0m]

[quote author=at0m link=topic=1537.msg220401#msg220401 date=1314391649]
[quote author=Didzo link=topic=1537.msg220368#msg220368 date=1314379660]
[quote author=at0m link=topic=1537.msg220349#msg220349 date=1314375983]
I was going to do a no-kill run, then bought the punching-through-walls aug and accidentally snapped someone's neck. Fuck.

Load to a previous save before you got that aug?
[/quote]It was the third time I used the aug, I'd already quicksaved and autosaved and didn't want to redo over an hour's work. I had to tranq an entire gang from a rooftop just to get into the building, then had it screwed up by a guard who walked into the wrong place at the wrong time. I was planning on Kool-Aiding then nailing him with the Stun Gun or a no-kill Takedown before he could react.

I might still go back and redo it, I dunno. I think the icarus probably would've been a better choice than the wall-punch thing, since it's got a stun move.
[/quote]

I'm in the same boat. The problem is there are paths that you have to punch through walls and snap necks to get to. I don't think I'm anal enough to redo everything and find new paths just to have a completely no-kill play-through.
[/quote]Not on my first playthrough, either.

[Surf314]

[quote author=Surf314 link=topic=1537.msg220462#msg220462 date=1314405418]
[quote author=at0m link=topic=1537.msg220401#msg220401 date=1314391649]
[quote author=Didzo link=topic=1537.msg220368#msg220368 date=1314379660]
[quote author=at0m link=topic=1537.msg220349#msg220349 date=1314375983]
I was going to do a no-kill run, then bought the punching-through-walls aug and accidentally snapped someone's neck. Fuck.

Load to a previous save before you got that aug?
[/quote]It was the third time I used the aug, I'd already quicksaved and autosaved and didn't want to redo over an hour's work. I had to tranq an entire gang from a rooftop just to get into the building, then had it screwed up by a guard who walked into the wrong place at the wrong time. I was planning on Kool-Aiding then nailing him with the Stun Gun or a no-kill Takedown before he could react.

I might still go back and redo it, I dunno. I think the icarus probably would've been a better choice than the wall-punch thing, since it's got a stun move.
[/quote]

I'm in the same boat. The problem is there are paths that you have to punch through walls and snap necks to get to. I don't think I'm anal enough to redo everything and find new paths just to have a completely no-kill play-through.
[/quote]Not on my first playthrough, either.
[/quote]

My next playthrough is going to be all-kill  8)

[backfire]

I pretty much gave up on ghosting/not killing things now. My loadout has a pistol, sniper rifle, tranq and stun gun. If I ever get into a situation where I need to mow down people, I just pick up a gun off one of the corpses.



... or just quickload...

[Ianki]

I pretty much gave up on ghosting/not killing things now. My loadout has a pistol, sniper rifle, tranq and stun gun. If I ever get into a situation where I need to mow down people, I just pick up a gun off one of the corpses.



... or just quickload...

I haven't played DXHR yet, but this was pretty much my load out for the first deus ex for the past 10 years.

Please tell me there is a good equivalent of the dragon's tooth sword.  This plus speed equaled my entire endgame

[Eschatos]

[quote author=backfire link=topic=1537.msg220504#msg220504 date=1314421423]
I pretty much gave up on ghosting/not killing things now. My loadout has a pistol, sniper rifle, tranq and stun gun. If I ever get into a situation where I need to mow down people, I just pick up a gun off one of the corpses.



... or just quickload...

I haven't played DXHR yet, but this was pretty much my load out for the first deus ex for the past 10 years.

Please tell me there is a good equivalent of the dragon's tooth sword.  This plus speed equaled my entire endgame
[/quote]

I got super excited when I saw a powersaw lying on a crate.  And then I walked up to it and saw that it can't be picked up.  :'(

[HeK]

I spent the last 12 hours playing along side Rilnac.
He killed everyone (non-quest/shop related) in Detroit, and individually sold each gun (picking up two converts the second to ammo).
He now has more credits then god.

He is now in China, killing everyone and stuffing all the bodies into a single apartment, along with all the refrigerators.

[backfire]

Okay this game's making me lose sleep. Last couple nights, the only reason I stopped playing was because I was too tired to make rational decisions anymore. :-\

For sanity's sake, I think I'm almost near the end.


Edit
Oh god I just found out you can kill people and still get ghost. I went through the entire first level (non-prologue) along with at least three other areas without making a single confrontation. I've been making this game waaay too hard on myself

[Versus]

I spent the last 12 hours playing along side Rilnac.
He killed everyone (non-quest/shop related) in Detroit, and individually sold each gun (picking up two converts the second to ammo).
He now has more credits then god.

He is now in China, killing everyone and stuffing all the bodies into a single apartment, along with all the refrigerators.

jesus christ that's amazing

[Luinbariel]

[quote author=HeK link=topic=1537.msg220521#msg220521 date=1314433057]
I spent the last 12 hours playing along side Rilnac.
He killed everyone (non-quest/shop related) in Detroit, and individually sold each gun (picking up two converts the second to ammo).
He now has more credits then god.

He is now in China, killing everyone and stuffing all the bodies into a single apartment, along with all the refrigerators.

jesus christ that's amazing
[/quote]

He's like some kind of terrifying spider, dragging its prey back to its lair where it can devour it as it desires.

[Eschatos]

I spent the last 12 hours playing along side Rilnac.
He killed everyone (non-quest/shop related) in Detroit, and individually sold each gun (picking up two converts the second to ammo).
He now has more credits then god.

He is now in China, killing everyone and stuffing all the bodies into a single apartment, along with all the refrigerators.

Did you tell him it's pretty pointless to make more than 10000 credits per mission hub? 

[Didzo]

I had 13 Praxis points horded at one point....

[Versus]

[quote author=versus link=topic=1537.msg220531#msg220531 date=1314456286]
[quote author=HeK link=topic=1537.msg220521#msg220521 date=1314433057]
I spent the last 12 hours playing along side Rilnac.
He killed everyone (non-quest/shop related) in Detroit, and individually sold each gun (picking up two converts the second to ammo).
He now has more credits then god.

He is now in China, killing everyone and stuffing all the bodies into a single apartment, along with all the refrigerators.

jesus christ that's amazing
[/quote]

He's like some kind of terrifying spider, dragging its prey back to its lair where it can devour it as it desires.
[/quote]

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