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[Wedge]

[quote author=Luca Shoal link=topic=460.msg11022#msg11022 date=1212902399]
All I know is that Pyro achievements make me <3. I wonder how many I'll be able to get legit.

Valve already said they're going to be easier (ie less ridiculous) than the medic achievements. Those were "just an experiment" to gauge community reaction.
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They ever gonna make it up to us by just unlocking the medic gear?  I'm never gonna get that stuff now =<.

[Senortacos]

I'll probably play engineer durring this. Tons of pyro's mean no spies sappin my sentry.

[cbre88x]

I'll probably play engineer durring this. Tons of pyro's mean no spies sappin my sentry.

Yea..I'm def. not playing as a sniper until the pyro achievement whoring is out da way. I might join the engi crew for awhile.

[Surf314]

[quote author=ZargonX link=topic=460.msg10995#msg10995 date=1212882549]
I think the Axestinguisher is definitely going to be a teamwork-type weapon.  Like was said before, one pyro runs through and ignites, a second one follows up with a storm of crits.  Could be quite effective.

Well again that depends on a few things, if the crits are from the new weapon's baseline, if it does 30 - 40 damage, well that gives you a crit value of 90 - 120, which will take down lighter classes, but if you just tap a heavy/soldier with it, its not going to kill them, on fire or not.
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One person spraying someone with fire while the other person hitting them with a crit axe will kill anyone I'm sorry.  If it doesn't kill a heavy I'd be surprised, they'd have to be really lucky and near water.  I mean if the one two punch doesn't get them the fire damage will.

[copulatingduck]

Any ideas on the 'significant change to gameplay' they're talking about? I hope it's something like Afterburn now burns away a set percentage of each classes health, like 50% or whatever, it makes it more likely that pyros could actually kill some shit one on one that way. 50 dmg afterburn ain't shit on a heavy.

[Vandamguy]

seconding CD`s concern

we're also going to be making some significant changes to the Pyro class for everyone, regardless of whether they have unlocked any new items.

pyro was always a tough class to balance. As it is right now its fine. when they start fucking with little things here and there he`s either going to be rediculously OP (HW without the speed penalty) or totaly gimp (sniper SMG)
The only change i want to see is flames being contagious

axestinguisher looks retarded. something out of some hardcore wrestling match, not in line with TF2`s visual style.
axestinguisher mechanics are nice.

[Eschatos]

How about permanent flamethrower damage?  They take damage until they die or get healed.  Or the incendiary rocket launcher gets re-added.

[Vandamguy]

How about permanent flamethrower damage?  They take damage until they die or get healed.  Or the incendiary rocket launcher gets re-added.

you mean like Vitality damage, like if you take 100 off a scout but he gets a med pack , it will only bump him to 25. that`s cool.
do want the rocket launcher back , but you would have to swap out the flamethrower for it.

[Surf314]

I'm excited, all the fears of the medic's unlocks were unfounded.  The only issue was class balance, but it usually wasnt that bad.

Plus if any class needs some work it's the pyro.  He is OP in some situations and UP in a lot of others.

If anything I'd like him to be able to destroy stickys.  It'd further place him as the counter class.  Counter spies, counter large groups of enemies clustering together and now counter stickies.  He'd be the perfect clean up class.

[Vandamguy]

used to be engi for destroying stickies with EMP grenade.

[copulatingduck]

Double barrel shotty with incediary rounds. 

[ainmosni]

seconding CD`s concern

we're also going to be making some significant changes to the Pyro class for everyone, regardless of whether they have unlocked any new items.

pyro was always a tough class to balance. As it is right now its fine. when they start fucking with little things here and there he`s either going to be rediculously OP (HW without the speed penalty) or totaly gimp (sniper SMG)
The only change i want to see is flames being contagious

axestinguisher looks retarded. something out of some hardcore wrestling match, not in line with TF2`s visual style.
axestinguisher mechanics are nice.

If anything, they should fix the hit detection... I can be right on top of someone and not burn him...

For the rest, maybe a little afterburn damage or a little more normal damage and a small speed increase to put him on par with the medic...

[copulatingduck]

zomg conc grenades!!!

[KarthXLR]

zomg conc grenades!!!

[CaffeinePowered]

[quote author=copulatingduck link=topic=460.msg11090#msg11090 date=1212937647]
zomg conc grenades!!!

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Grenades, if you bitched about them, you didnt learn how to use them

[copulatingduck]

Crit rockets are the new grenades. Also, conc grenade != spammy grenades everyone hated from tfc

[Wedge]

and a small speed increase to put him on par with the medic...

No.  Eat needles and die fgt.

[ainmosni]

[quote author=ainmosni link=topic=460.msg11088#msg11088 date=1212937543]
and a small speed increase to put him on par with the medic...

No.  Eat needles and die fgt.
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Come here and suck the business end of my flamethrower

[Kor]

It's..uhh..getting insinuating in here.

[Dave]

-INUENDO!-


soo, do i fit in now guys?





....guys?