Updates of the Week (ongoing discussion)

[backfire]

[quote author=Scary Womanizing Pig Mask link=topic=206.msg113636#msg113636 date=1253061506]
[quote author=Coordinator Ruby link=topic=206.msg113635#msg113635 date=1253061367]
Yeah giving it crits is just about as worthless as making the medigun able to crit.

Not really. Doesn't healing a lot of people boost your crit rate?
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yeah. If a medic heals an injured person for 5 seconds, their melee crit is near 45%
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Well, melee crit chance cap is at 20% actually. Sure doesn't seem that way though -_-

[KarthXLR]

[quote author=Professor Funbucks link=topic=206.msg113640#msg113640 date=1253061773]
[quote author=Scary Womanizing Pig Mask link=topic=206.msg113636#msg113636 date=1253061506]
[quote author=Coordinator Ruby link=topic=206.msg113635#msg113635 date=1253061367]
Yeah giving it crits is just about as worthless as making the medigun able to crit.

Not really. Doesn't healing a lot of people boost your crit rate?
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yeah. If a medic heals an injured person for 5 seconds, their melee crit is near 45%
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Well, melee crit chance cap is at 20% actually. Sure doesn't seem that way though -_-
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OH GOD WHY IS IT ALWAYS A CRIT

[copulatingduck]

[quote author=Coordinator Ruby link=topic=206.msg113635#msg113635 date=1253061367]
Yeah giving it crits is just about as worthless as making the medigun able to crit.

Not really. Doesn't healing a lot of people boost your crit rate?
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no

[Badgerman of DOOM]

MY IDEA TO MAKE THE UPDATE LESS SUCK
Give both of them the boost
Make Syringe Gun deal regular damage
Remove Crits from Blutsauger again
Make the Blutsauger deal 25% less damage (ie, 7 instead of 10)
Because right now the Blut kinda sucks compared to the Syringe Gun.

In short, Blutsauger should be unable to crit, should deal 25% less damage, and heal 3 HP per hit.

[Wedge]

MY IDEA TO MAKE THE UPDATE LESS SUCK
Give both of them the boost
Make Syringe Gun deal regular damage
Remove Crits from Blutsauger again
Make the Blutsauger deal 25% less damage (ie, 7 instead of 10)
Because right now the Blut kinda sucks compared to the Syringe Gun.

ROFL no.  It's sort of still great.  Although I haven't seen it crit at all.

[Benito Mussolini]

MY IDEA TO MAKE THE UPDATE LESS SUCK
Give both of them the boost
Make Syringe Gun deal regular damage
Remove Crits from Blutsauger again
Make the Blutsauger deal 25% less damage (ie, 7 instead of 10)
Because right now the Blut kinda sucks compared to the Syringe Gun.

In short, Blutsauger should be unable to crit, should deal 25% less damage, and heal 3 HP per hit.

Wait wait.

Which didn't get the boost?

Syringe Gun gives you better health regen.
The blautsauger now crits, and gives you getter health regen (1-4 hp/s instead of 1/3).




So... people are saying that the Blautsauger now sucks... after it got buffed.

Good job, people. Keep being tools.
No offence.

[Badgerman of DOOM]

The medic regen rate was tweaked, I think that Blut shouldn't suffer the subs, I propose an alternative.

[Benito Mussolini]

The medic regen rate was tweaked, I think that Blut shouldn't suffer the subs, I propose an alternative.

VALV[sup]E[/sup] proposes a buff, and you find a way to complain.

Oh wait. Maybe the problem comes from the fact that the Syringe Gun is now actually a gun that you might want to use...
VALV[sup]E[/sup] is making you choose which bonus you want. They now (finally) offer two guns of equal strength to use, and you want to alternate that..?

[Geoff]

[quote author=Coordinator Ruby link=topic=206.msg113650#msg113650 date=1253063963]
The medic regen rate was tweaked, I think that Blut shouldn't suffer the subs, I propose an alternative.

VALV[sup]E[/sup] proposes a buff, and you find a way to complain.

Oh wait. Maybe the problem comes from the fact that the Syringe Gun is now actually a gun that you might want to use...
VALV[sup]E[/sup] is making you choose which bonus you want. They now (finally) offer two guns of equal strength to use, and you want to alternate that..?
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The point to having unlockable weapons is that so there is more than one style of play, not one gun better than the other.


also raped didiot

[Mr. Face]

Oh sneaky, sneaky Valve.

See they increased the crit chance for melee so that you'll only get about 25% Uber for every melee kill

Now although it's easier to get a kill Uber takes longer

pretty sneaky

[Benito Mussolini]

Oh sneaky, sneaky Valve.

See they increased the crit chance for melee so that you'll only get about 25% Uber for every melee kill

Now although it's easier to get a kill Uber takes longer

pretty sneaky

...




wat?

[Scary Womanizing Pig Mask]

[quote author=Benito link=topic=206.msg113651#msg113651 date=1253064378]
[quote author=Coordinator Ruby link=topic=206.msg113650#msg113650 date=1253063963]
The medic regen rate was tweaked, I think that Blut shouldn't suffer the subs, I propose an alternative.

VALV[sup]E[/sup] proposes a buff, and you find a way to complain.

Oh wait. Maybe the problem comes from the fact that the Syringe Gun is now actually a gun that you might want to use...
VALV[sup]E[/sup] is making you choose which bonus you want. They now (finally) offer two guns of equal strength to use, and you want to alternate that..?
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The point to having unlockable weapons is that so there is more than one style of play, not one gun better than the other.


also raped didiot
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They've actually been doing a pretty good job of this. Just buff the Ambassador and that will hold true for all the primary weapons.

[Geoff]

Oh sneaky, sneaky Valve.

See they increased the crit chance for melee so that you'll only get about 25% Uber for every melee kill

Now although it's easier to get a kill Uber takes longer

pretty sneaky

face...



with the ubersaw you've always been able to get 25% ubercharge with melee hit...


crit chance has stayed the same...





mama mia you moron

[[fr31ns]Karrde]

Haven't had a go yet (actually, I haven't played TF2 at all in like 2 weeks.....go nursing school/work...) but it looks like reasonable buff without really changing blutsauger.

[SAVAGE-0]

guy seriously... enough with the non stop name calling its disturbing... theres no need to call being idiots and assholes just because they don't understand something...

Benito, I think most of the "complaining" is because people didn't realise the blut really got buffed not nerfed...

I love that my two favorite classes seem to get buffs more than not these days (medic and scout - with FAN).  The regen rate even with Blut seems a bit high - but hey I'll def take it!

and ya face the ubersaw has always been 25% per swing - haven't looked into the crit chances, but I don't think they were changed either

[Luinbariel]

guy seriously... enough with the non stop name calling its disturbing... theres no need to call being idiots and assholes just because they don't understand something...

Been seeing a lot of that lately actually.

[Versus]

BREAK TIME!

<3 <3 <3

[backfire]

So, enough about blutsaugers and more about sammiches. Thanks to the edible device buff, heavy's now my other favorite class.

A soldier and I were walking towards the C from A in gravelpit when a pyro attacked us, caught us off guard. We were both really low on health probably about to die from the afterburn. Inside the tower, I pulled out my sammich, nomed on that, then gave the rest to the soldier. Newly refreshed, we both walked up the tower and capped the final point. I <3 my sammich! ;D

[Chaosye]

So, enough about blutsaugers and more about sammiches. Thanks to the edible device buff, heavy's now my other favorite class.

A soldier and I were walking towards the C from A in gravelpit when a pyro attacked us, caught us off guard. We were both really low on health probably about to die from the afterburn. Inside the tower, I pulled out my sammich, nomed on that, then gave the rest to the soldier. Newly refreshed, we both walked up the tower and capped the final point. I <3 my sammich! ;D

You can give sandviches to other people?

[Greatbacon]

[quote author=backfire link=topic=206.msg113756#msg113756 date=1253130068]
So, enough about blutsaugers and more about sammiches. Thanks to the edible device buff, heavy's now my other favorite class.

A soldier and I were walking towards the C from A in gravelpit when a pyro attacked us, caught us off guard. We were both really low on health probably about to die from the afterburn. Inside the tower, I pulled out my sammich, nomed on that, then gave the rest to the soldier. Newly refreshed, we both walked up the tower and capped the final point. I <3 my sammich! ;D

You can give sandviches to other people?
[/quote]Durp.  Right click and it drops it on a plate.  Then heals 50% of their health when they pick it up.