Updates of the Week (ongoing discussion)

[backfire]

Has hit detection gotten worse for anyone this past week? I counted at least 3 perfect condition, both of us standing still, point blank scattergun directly into the torso (as in, not exaggerating one bit) and doing absolutely no damage.

[beep beep diglett]

Has hit detection gotten worse for anyone this past week? I counted at least 3 perfect condition, both of us standing still, point blank scattergun directly into the torso (as in, not exaggerating one bit) and doing absolutely no damage.

yes

mainly because you're playing on blue which iirc has logmod on it

but red has been bad too, hit bonesinger in the faec for 50 dmg, with clear bloodstain and everything last night

[Chief]

http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Gadget_Token
wat?

[backfire]

http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Gadget_Token
wat?

Umm, think of it like gems you can attach to weapons to change their traits.

Ya know, since TF2 is an RPGFPS.

[HeK]

[quote author=TheDarkChief link=topic=206.msg189619#msg189619 date=1293415174]
http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Gadget_Token
wat?

Umm, think of it like gems you can attach to weapons to change their traits.

Ya know, since TF2 is a RPGFPS-themed hat simulator.
[/quote]

[beep beep diglett]

probably gonna go through beta first and be terrible

[[SiN] Merc]

In theory, it'd be cool, as I'm a customization whore, and would love a harder hitting revolver, a faster cooling targe, or the like. In practice, it'll somehow break heavies and soliders more.

[Vongore]

Merc link=topic=206.msg189635#msg189635 date=1293420261]
In theory, it'd be cool, as I'm a customization whore, and would love a harder hitting revolver, a faster cooling targe, or the like. In practice, it'll somehow break heavies and soliders more.

Fire Retardant Gadget

Fuck Merc, now he'll never die

[KarthXLR]

oh for gods sake, this game isn't the same anymore.

[beep beep diglett]

dont jump to conclusions, we dunno if thisll be part of a new game mode (theres shit about minerals too) or even make it out of beta

[[SiN] Merc]

[quote author=[SiN] Merc link=topic=206.msg189635#msg189635 date=1293420261]
In theory, it'd be cool, as I'm a customization whore, and would love a harder hitting revolver, a faster cooling targe, or the like. In practice, it'll somehow break heavies and soliders more.

Fire Retardant Gadget

Fuck Merc, now he'll never die
[/quote]

if I could do more damage or have a faster run speed, I wouldn't touch flame retardancy with a 10 foot pole.

[BS1]

oh for gods sake, this game isn't the same anymore.

:'(

I got sick of all the crap they've added. I kind of just want a vanilla game now even though it means giving up jarate. Most of the things Valve has been adding have completely ruined the feel of the game for me.

[Maxon]

I was fine with everything up till the addition of the store myself.

[beep beep diglett]

i dont like the drop system, but the store? rly? you pay for cosmetic items and convenience, how is that bad?

[KarthXLR]

Everything after the heavy update has been downhill for me. Kind of why I was looking forward to the beta, but now lots of people have the new unlocks. Shame too, the vanilla-style gameplay felt reallly balanced to me.

[beep beep diglett]

Everything after the heavy update has been downhill for me. Kind of why I was looking forward to the beta, but now lots of people have the new unlocks. Shame too, the vanilla-style gameplay felt reallly balanced to me.

which unlocks are horribly balanced

[Chief]

list of things to do for valve
1. balance tf2
2. optimize tf2
3. make episode 3

[at0m]

list of things to do for valve
1. make episode 3
2. make episode 3
3. make episode 3

But since they now have an ingame cash store, its actually going to be:

list of things to do for valve
1. make more hats
2. make super rare hats that you have to buy raffle tickets to get a chance to find
3. make store-exclusive hats

[[SiN] Merc]

[quote author=Karth link=topic=206.msg189678#msg189678 date=1293437613]
Everything after the heavy update has been downhill for me. Kind of why I was looking forward to the beta, but now lots of people have the new unlocks. Shame too, the vanilla-style gameplay felt reallly balanced to me.

which unlocks are horribly balanced
[/quote]

Shortstop, Degreaser, and Bushwaka are my picks.

All things considered though, I love the new game additions, it keeps it fresh. I don't want this game turnin into Counter Strike, where every goddamn match is the same.

[CaffeinePowered]

Merc link=topic=206.msg189689#msg189689 date=1293440490]
[quote author=diglett link=topic=206.msg189679#msg189679 date=1293437772]
[quote author=Karth link=topic=206.msg189678#msg189678 date=1293437613]
Everything after the heavy update has been downhill for me. Kind of why I was looking forward to the beta, but now lots of people have the new unlocks. Shame too, the vanilla-style gameplay felt reallly balanced to me.

which unlocks are horribly balanced
[/quote]

Shortstop, Degreaser, and Bushwaka are my picks.

All things considered though, I love the new game additions, it keeps it fresh. I don't want this game turnin into Counter Strike, where every goddamn match is the same.
[/quote]


First two definitely by far need a nerf


I'm more worried about what Atom mentioned, that now they'll have more pressure to put out more content faster. I was quite fine with the class packs, which was a pack every 2 - 4 months, now it seems like every 2 - 4 weeks they drop a new patch with a boat load of new stuff. There's absolutely no way you can properly test that for balance.