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#41
04-04-2011, 03:00 PM

(04-04-2011, 02:50 PM)Luinbariel link Wrote: I'm sorry, but I don't heal bad players. I'm on brb.u. MAKE THE CONNECTION.



In all seriousness, I do not think team stacks are fun, no matter how good or bad you are. From a medic standpoint there is nothing more annoying than being on either team; if I'm on the losing side, it's almost impossible to help anyone if they die constantly. If I'm on the winning side, there is no challenge at all and I quickly get bored.

There is no excuse for intentionally being a dick on the server, especially after being asked to stop.

Hey! I only did it because I thought it was funny Sad.

I'm sorry.
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#42
04-04-2011, 04:11 PM

(04-04-2011, 03:00 PM)If-I-Die-Its-HOGAN! BROTHER! link Wrote: [quote author=Luinbariel link=topic=5549.msg201711#msg201711 date=1301946604]
I'm sorry, but I don't heal bad players. I'm on brb.u. MAKE THE CONNECTION.



In all seriousness, I do not think team stacks are fun, no matter how good or bad you are. From a medic standpoint there is nothing more annoying than being on either team; if I'm on the losing side, it's almost impossible to help anyone if they die constantly. If I'm on the winning side, there is no challenge at all and I quickly get bored.

There is no excuse for intentionally being a dick on the server, especially after being asked to stop.

Hey! I only did it because I thought it was funny Sad.

I'm sorry.
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#43
04-04-2011, 04:27 PM

(04-04-2011, 01:46 PM)BS1 link Wrote: You guys are no fun.

I for one enjoy it when people teamstack, it makes the game more fun.

The one thing I can see why you would complain about it is if you play seriously and just aren't a good player compared to others. That wouldn't be too surprising actually. I'm not trying to be an asshole, but this server only has a couple decent players. So I can see this as one point I guess. I don't play to win, and I rarely play seriously so this point doesn't affect me.

The bitching some of you do however is not fun; some of you bitch a lot . A few months back I stopped playing here because of some of the regulars. It's no fun hearing people complain the whole game.

Bitching about people bitching. Classic.

inb4 me bitching about someone bitching about people bitching


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#44
04-04-2011, 04:28 PM

(04-04-2011, 01:46 PM)BS1 link Wrote: this server only has a couple decent players.

Are you trolling?

Which two?

You and liquid? b)


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#45
04-04-2011, 04:39 PM

(04-04-2011, 01:46 PM)BS1 link Wrote: You guys are no fun.

I for one enjoy it when people teamstack, it makes the game more fun.

The one thing I can see why you would complain about it is if you play seriously and just aren't a good player compared to others. That wouldn't be too surprising actually. I'm not trying to be an asshole, but this server only has a couple decent players. So I can see this as one point I guess. I don't play to win, and I rarely play seriously so this point doesn't affect me.

The bitching some of you do however is not fun; some of you bitch a lot . A few months back I stopped playing here because of some of the regulars. It's no fun hearing people complain the whole game.

Forgetting that a community has to perpetuate itself? Check.

Failed to recognize even competition makes FPS's thrive? Check.

Missing the point? Check.

I've been here before in the past Eightball, I hope your efforts are rewarded. Only a community as a whole can fix this kind of problem; either be a part of the solution or stand aside for better people.


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#46
04-04-2011, 04:50 PM

(04-04-2011, 04:39 PM)Kor link Wrote: I've been here before in the past Eightball, I hope your efforts are rewarded. Only a community as a whole can fix this kind of problem; either be a part of the solution or stand aside for better people.
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#47
04-04-2011, 04:57 PM

I've sort of noticed this a few times I've been on. It really is a server killer.

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#48
04-04-2011, 05:01 PM

Get the autobalance thing on, the one that detects when average team scores are lower or higher than the other one by a wide margin, balances accordingly, then restricts you from changing teams.


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#49
04-04-2011, 05:05 PM

1 or 2 rounds of team stacking usually won't kill the server if it's regulars, but this is becoming a problem. I've seen the server get killed a few times within the last week because of a stack. If they dodge a scramble, a kick or temp ban might be the answer.

Quote:Get the autobalance thing on, the one that detects when average team scores are lower or higher than the other one by a wide margin, balances accordingly, then restricts you from changing teams.

I'm not so sure about this, because I've seen some rounds that were pretty even with a pretty wide average point margin.


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#50
04-04-2011, 05:10 PM

(04-04-2011, 05:05 PM)Wyrmidon link Wrote: 1 or 2 rounds of team stacking usually won't kill the server if it's regulars, but this is becoming a problem. I've seen the server get killed a few times within the last week because of a stack. If they dodge a scramble, a kick or temp ban might be the answer.

EarthlingJohn Wrote:Get the autobalance thing on, the one that detects when average team scores are lower or higher than the other one by a wide margin, balances accordingly, then restricts you from changing teams.

I'm not so sure about this, because I've seen some rounds that were pretty even with a pretty wide average point margin.

Going on what Wyrm said, I kinda think the first warning should be kban for like an hour or so, and if they keep doing it that's when you go to the longer bans. I know I'm no admin, but it honestly feels a bit extreme to jump to day-long bans as soon as its noticed.


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#51
04-04-2011, 05:44 PM

(04-04-2011, 05:05 PM)Wyrmidon link Wrote:
EarthlingJohn Wrote:Get the autobalance thing on, the one that detects when average team scores are lower or higher than the other one by a wide margin, balances accordingly, then restricts you from changing teams.

I'm not so sure about this, because I've seen some rounds that were pretty even with a pretty wide average point margin.

Attack/defend maps sometimes have this happen. I'm in favor of manual team regulation. Automatically initiated auto-balance can't differentiate between a wide point margin that is the result of repeated rolling, and one that occurs because one team is doing a good job of defending the first point of Dustbowl for the first 6 minutes.


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#52
04-04-2011, 05:57 PM

Added the plugin that Negate Mentioned earlier

http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=98573


I also think I updated spray trace as well....not sure if its working or not


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04-04-2011, 08:04 PM

(04-04-2011, 05:57 PM)Caffeine link Wrote: Added the plugin that Negate Mentioned earlier

http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=98573


I also think I updated spray trace as well....not sure if its working or not

I can confirm it does work now.


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#54
04-04-2011, 08:15 PM

(04-04-2011, 04:27 PM)sk8mystery23 link Wrote: Bitching about people bitching. Classic.

inb4 me bitching about someone bitching about people bitching
I wasn't bitching.  Wink
(04-04-2011, 04:28 PM)Dr. Zaius link Wrote: Are you trolling?

Which two?

You and liquid? b)
I shouldn't have said couple since couple technically means two; I should have said few. Liquid is definitely one of the good players on the server, probably the best.
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#55
04-05-2011, 10:12 AM

(04-04-2011, 04:39 PM)Kor link Wrote: [quote author=BS1 link=topic=5549.msg201705#msg201705 date=1301942765]
You guys are no fun.

I for one enjoy it when people teamstack, it makes the game more fun.

The one thing I can see why you would complain about it is if you play seriously and just aren't a good player compared to others. That wouldn't be too surprising actually. I'm not trying to be an asshole, but this server only has a couple decent players. So I can see this as one point I guess. I don't play to win, and I rarely play seriously so this point doesn't affect me.

The bitching some of you do however is not fun; some of you bitch a lot . A few months back I stopped playing here because of some of the regulars. It's no fun hearing people complain the whole game.

Forgetting that a community has to perpetuate itself? Check.

Failed to recognize even competition makes FPS's thrive? Check.

Missing the point? You fucking cunts I hate you all.

I've been here before in the past Eightball, I hope your efforts are rewarded. Only a community as a whole can fix this kind of problem; either be a part of the solution or stand aside for better people.
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#56
04-12-2011, 03:06 PM

(04-04-2011, 08:15 PM)BS1 link Wrote: [quote author=sk8mystery23 link=topic=5549.msg201718#msg201718 date=1301952453]
Bitching about people bitching. Classic.

inb4 me bitching about someone bitching about people bitching
I wasn't bitching.  Wink
(04-04-2011, 04:28 PM)Dr. Zaius link Wrote: Are you trolling?

Which two?

You and liquid? b)
I shouldn't have said couple since couple technically means two; I should have said few. Liquid is definitely one of the good players on the server, probably the best.
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Liquid is bad. Hek, Loq, and Merc shut him down.


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#57
04-12-2011, 03:28 PM

(04-12-2011, 03:06 PM)Whendilin link Wrote: [quote author=BS1 link=topic=5549.msg201759#msg201759 date=1301966105]
[quote author=sk8mystery23 link=topic=5549.msg201718#msg201718 date=1301952453]
Bitching about people bitching. Classic.

inb4 me bitching about someone bitching about people bitching
I wasn't bitching.  Wink
(04-04-2011, 04:28 PM)Dr. Zaius link Wrote: Are you trolling?

Which two?

You and liquid? b)
I shouldn't have said couple since couple technically means two; I should have said few. Liquid is definitely one of the good players on the server, probably the best.
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Liquid is bad. Hek, Loq, and Merc shut him down.
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#58
05-09-2011, 08:26 AM

Heres my suggestion.

Now I hate that sort of stacking and I hate servers you can't even join a friends team, and get swapped every five seconds.

In fact the idea of scrambling in match and inverting everything you've done so far is crazy and bad and sucks and <all synonyms for terrible>

I think it would help to have more people with more admin powers, as <whoever> said.

but more admin powers.

To mix it up and make it fun for the other team.

example

One team becomes crazy stacked by whatever culprits.

win 5 in a row, everyone is pissed.

So an admin comes in and decides to give the other team all kritz until the teamstackers leave.

Now imagine this happened to you in your day..................

Is that not all the argument you need?
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#59
05-09-2011, 08:58 AM

That's a terrible idea. We already use admin powers to temporarily ban them, and if they come back again, permanently ban. That seems like enough to me.
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#60
05-09-2011, 09:10 AM

Hasn't been much team staking lately when I play, we had some dudes being dick heads once when there were like four people online once, and I just bothered Caff till he fixed it. I may be missing it though as I haven't been playing as much as I would like.


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