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(06-26-2012, 02:31 PM)backfire link Wrote: [Image: jGiLb.png]

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You know this just makes you super-easy to flare shot now, I hope a lot of scouts use it


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(06-26-2012, 02:35 PM)Caffeine link Wrote: [quote author=backfire link=topic=206.msg248278#msg248278 date=1340739093]
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You know this just makes you super-easy to flare shot now, I hope a lot of scouts use it
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06-26-2012, 02:49 PM

They all look like trash.

I'm sure we'll occasionally see the new scattergun running flags or trashcans charging up the new rocket launcher around corners, but nothing seems really viable. Scorch shot? Knock enemies back? If only pyros could do that with their primary weapons...
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(06-26-2012, 02:49 PM)Eightball link Wrote: They all look like trash.

I'm sure we'll occasionally see the new scattergun running flags or trashcans charging up the new rocket launcher around corners, but nothing seems really viable. Scorch shot? Knock enemies back? If only pyros could do that with their primary weapons...

But now I can have knockback AND the phlog Big Grin


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06-27-2012, 12:11 AM

(06-26-2012, 02:35 PM)Caffeine link Wrote: [quote author=backfire link=topic=206.msg248278#msg248278 date=1340739093]
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You know this just makes you super-easy to flare shot now, I hope a lot of scouts use it
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06-27-2012, 12:40 AM

Problem is..   With the 50% vulnerability a Scout now takes 45 damage per Flare. If the afterburn also earns a boost, which it does, each click adds another 4.5 to damage. Afterburn lasts 10 seconds, 2 clicks per second means 9 damage per second, which equals 90 damage total during the afterburn.

So... after getting hit by a single Flare, you only have 9 seconds to live without counting any extra damage you might get. It's worthy to note that a single minigun bullet reduces your life by a second.

That is why that gun is garbage.


Also the boost is nice, but you can't jump, making it totally useless


EDIT: NVM forgot about the 15% health bonus, which adds 19 HP, leaving the Scout with 144 HP, while a Flare shot would only do 135


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06-27-2012, 12:51 AM

(06-27-2012, 12:11 AM)Yip Yip Luca link Wrote: [quote author=Caffeine link=topic=206.msg248281#msg248281 date=1340739350]
[quote author=backfire link=topic=206.msg248278#msg248278 date=1340739093]
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You know this just makes you super-easy to flare shot now, I hope a lot of scouts use it
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06-27-2012, 01:32 AM

I can see myself using the new SMG with the huntsman. Bodyshot for 120 damage? Piddle them for 5 hp, then turnabout their team.

That, and I kinda like the idea of the new scout scattergun. It won't be effective, but I GOTTA GO FAST.

Now if I can just get a swag spy item or two in the update...


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06-27-2012, 06:57 AM

The pistol will still have its use. Just as I don't use a sandman to counter a soldier because of the whole 110hp used-to-be-a-scout-like-you-til-I-took-a-rocket-to-the-face bit, you wouldn't use the pocket pistol when faced with many pyros.

In others news, the baby blaster's the scouts new phlog. More at 11.


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06-27-2012, 09:36 AM

None of the weapons seem particularly great.  Nothing I'd change.  The only thing that might be a bit nasty is the sniper rifle in the hands of someone like liquid.  For people who as a rule don't body shot at all, it's a flat upgrade.


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06-27-2012, 09:45 AM

Quote:Karrde link=topic=206.msg248338#msg248338 date=1340807807]
None of the weapons seem particularly great.  Nothing I'd change.  The only thing that might be a bit nasty is the sniper rifle in the hands of someone like liquid.  For people who as a rule don't body shot at all, it's a flat upgrade.

Well, sort of. It's true that if you never bawdyshawt, the stated downside to this weapon doesn't really apply. However, the benefits are pretty negligible. Players like liquid tend to rely on quickscoping and will only charge up shots for things like heavies or sentries. In this, there really isn't a huge benefit to this, and in fact the "focus" can actually be a hindrance; not being able to unscope can be life-threatening sometimes.
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Meet the Pyro


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(06-27-2012, 12:58 PM)Wyrmidon link Wrote: Meet the Pyro

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Fuck XD does that mean there will be a rainbow flamer thrower now?


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(06-27-2012, 01:08 PM)Reevesith link Wrote: Fuck XD does that mean there will be a rainbow flamer thrower now?


God I hope so.


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(06-27-2012, 01:11 PM)Wyrmidon link Wrote: [quote author=Reevesith link=topic=206.msg248351#msg248351 date=1340820497]
Fuck XD does that mean there will be a rainbow flamer thrower now?


God I hope so.
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what made it more funny to me was that my sister was also watching with me & she was holding her baby XD


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(06-27-2012, 01:12 PM)Reevesith link Wrote: [quote author=Wyrmidon link=topic=206.msg248352#msg248352 date=1340820674]
[quote author=Reevesith link=topic=206.msg248351#msg248351 date=1340820497]
Fuck XD does that mean there will be a rainbow flamer thrower now?


God I hope so.
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what made it more funny to me was that my sister was also watching with me & she was holding her baby XD
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It was good but I was hoping for it to be a bit more extensive like meet the spy.


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(06-27-2012, 01:34 PM)matter11 link Wrote: [quote author=Reevesith link=topic=206.msg248353#msg248353 date=1340820743]
[quote author=Wyrmidon link=topic=206.msg248352#msg248352 date=1340820674]
[quote author=Reevesith link=topic=206.msg248351#msg248351 date=1340820497]
Fuck XD does that mean there will be a rainbow flamer thrower now?


God I hope so.
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what made it more funny to me was that my sister was also watching with me & she was holding her baby XD
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It was good but I was hoping for it to be a bit more extensive like meet the spy.
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It was everything I couldd have dreamed for! =')

I knew they weren't going to reveal anything.  If they did it would have killed the Pyro's mysteriosity and frankly made him less of a character.  I like the outcome.


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(06-27-2012, 01:40 PM)StolenToast link Wrote: [quote author=matter11 link=topic=206.msg248355#msg248355 date=1340822058]
[quote author=Reevesith link=topic=206.msg248353#msg248353 date=1340820743]
[quote author=Wyrmidon link=topic=206.msg248352#msg248352 date=1340820674]
[quote author=Reevesith link=topic=206.msg248351#msg248351 date=1340820497]
Fuck XD does that mean there will be a rainbow flamer thrower now?


God I hope so.
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what made it more funny to me was that my sister was also watching with me & she was holding her baby XD
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It was good but I was hoping for it to be a bit more extensive like meet the spy.
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It was everything I couldd have dreamed for! =')

I knew they weren't going to reveal anything.  If they did it would have killed the Pyro's mysteriosity and frankly made him less of a character.  I like the outcome.
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Agreed wholeheartedly


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(06-27-2012, 01:51 PM)Käse link Wrote: [quote author=StolenToast link=topic=206.msg248357#msg248357 date=1340822426]
[quote author=matter11 link=topic=206.msg248355#msg248355 date=1340822058]
[quote author=Reevesith link=topic=206.msg248353#msg248353 date=1340820743]
[quote author=Wyrmidon link=topic=206.msg248352#msg248352 date=1340820674]
[quote author=Reevesith link=topic=206.msg248351#msg248351 date=1340820497]
Fuck XD does that mean there will be a rainbow flamer thrower now?


God I hope so.
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what made it more funny to me was that my sister was also watching with me & she was holding her baby XD
[/quote]

It was good but I was hoping for it to be a bit more extensive like meet the spy.
[/quote]

It was everything I couldd have dreamed for! =')

I knew they weren't going to reveal anything.  If they did it would have killed the Pyro's mysteriosity and frankly made him less of a character.  I like the outcome.
[/quote]
Agreed wholeheartedly
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I acknowledged that as well but I still wanted a little bit of history :/

There was also that little part of me that wanted it to be the scouts mom. They could've done something like the scorned lover of the spy considering the counter-class aspect would add to it.


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