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bjlsurfer
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#21
07-29-2008, 01:37 PM

I don't think Nintendo was ever REALLY about the hardcore gamer- they've been about building a system, and building strong 1st party games for that system that anyone can enjoy- I mean, sure, Zelda and Metroid are kind of hardcore IPs, but compared to stuff like Gears of War, SOCOM, Tom Clancy games, they seem pretty accessible.  Most of the real "hardcore" games on past systems like Goldeneye, RE4, etc, were third party.  This generation Nintendo realized that they had to do something different than Microsoft and Sony, because last gen they didn't, and they literally couldn't afford to put out another Gamecube-like platform. 

So for their next platform, I don't think they're going to make it more "hardcore" like the Xbox 360 or the PS3.  HD?  Sure, it's reaching a point where that makes financial sense for Nintendo.  Better Online?  Probably that too- even casual gamers can appreciate being able to play with friends in other places.  But will Nintendo switch back to a regular controller and start trying to be an Xbox?  No way, not after how well they've done with Wii.  I'm guessing Nintendo's next showing is going to be an update to the DS, and then after a few years we might start hearing about a new console with better graphics, online, and more accurate controls (ie MotionPlus).  Who knows?  Maybe they'll surprise us with another revolutionary change.  But right now, Nintendo doesn't NEED to change- they just need to keep cranking out more tiny white boxes and counting their money.

Sure, they've disappointed me a little, but my PC is my hardcore system.  Wii is for when friends come over, or for when I'm in the mood for something a little less hectic than TF2.  And it does that pretty well.
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#22
07-29-2008, 03:49 PM

(07-29-2008, 01:37 PM)bjlsurfer link Wrote: This generation Nintendo realized that they had to do something different than Microsoft and Sony, because last gen they didn't, and they literally couldn't afford to put out another Gamecube-like platform. 


A little interesting tidbit, they made money on the gamecube, despite it finishing in 3rd place (barely behind the Xbox 22m vs 24m). They've made money on every Wii they sell. They dont have that gap that Sony or MS does.

Provided they continue to take the approach that they always have, and that is to make money on the actual system as well as the games they will continue to do fine.


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07-29-2008, 03:54 PM

(07-29-2008, 03:49 PM)CaffeinePowered link Wrote: [quote author=bjlsurfer link=topic=979.msg25891#msg25891 date=1217356651]
This generation Nintendo realized that they had to do something different than Microsoft and Sony, because last gen they didn't, and they literally couldn't afford to put out another Gamecube-like platform. 


A little interesting tidbit, they made money on the gamecube, despite it finishing in 3rd place (barely behind the Xbox 22m vs 24m). They've made money on every Wii they sell. They dont have that gap that Sony or MS does.
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Didn't know that.  I was assuming that after seeing this on my feedreader this morning. 
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07-29-2008, 06:54 PM

@ bjlsurfer

I noticed that the only "hardcore" games you listed were FPS....
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07-29-2008, 11:06 PM

(07-29-2008, 06:54 PM)KarthXLR link Wrote: @ bjlsurfer

I noticed that the only "hardcore" games you listed were FPS....
RE4's not, neither is splinter cell... but that's missing the point.  The most "hardcore" games on Nintendo systems have been produced by third parties, whether you're talking about Goldeneye or Madden, or Contra or Tales of Symphonia.  Do hardcore gamers love Zelda and Mario and Metroid and Super Smash?  Sure, but so do my friends who only play games every once in a while, and that's how Nintendo wants those games to be, and how they've always wanted them to be.
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07-30-2008, 10:14 PM

ROCKBAND FOR WII IS ASS Sad. You know what's funny? They are releasing rockband 2 for wii... IN ONLY 6 MONTHS. Too funny. Atleast they didn't make some stupid ploy with the wiimote for rockband. They will for konami's rock revolution, though.
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07-30-2008, 10:30 PM

<3 Ballroom Blitz. Also <3 Run To The Hills (I finished up Solo Career on Medium Guitar today). Timmy & The Lords of the Underworld is a bitch on guitar, also. It's the ONLY song I 3 star'd.

And now I just have to buy Rock Band 2, the game. I don't need to buy the whole huge set Big Grin. Well...other than another guitar. Damn shame the GHIII guitars don't work with Rock Band.


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07-30-2008, 10:34 PM

(07-30-2008, 10:30 PM)Luca Shoal link Wrote: <3 Ballroom Blitz. Also <3 Run To The Hills (I finished up Solo Career on Medium Guitar today). Timmy & The Lords of the Underworld is a bitch on guitar, also. It's the ONLY song I 3 star'd.

And now I just have to buy Rock Band 2, the game. I don't need to buy the whole huge set Big Grin. Well...other than another guitar. Damn shame the GHIII guitars don't work with Rock Band.

Ballroom Blitz and Brainpower are my favorites.



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07-30-2008, 11:28 PM

(07-30-2008, 10:30 PM)Luca Shoal link Wrote: Damn shame the GHIII guitars don't work with Rock Band.

no, but you can buy a third party guitar from gamestop or bestbuy for about $30 and it's identical to the 360 GH guitar.
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07-30-2008, 11:31 PM

(07-30-2008, 11:28 PM)xlilkrissyx link Wrote: [quote author=Luca Shoal link=topic=979.msg26337#msg26337 date=1217475054]
Damn shame the GHIII guitars don't work with Rock Band.

no, but you can buy a third party guitar from gamestop or bestbuy for about $30 and it's identical to the 360 GH guitar.
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And that's $30 you shouldn't have to spend.


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07-30-2008, 11:33 PM

(07-30-2008, 11:31 PM)CopulatingDuck link Wrote: [quote author=xlilkrissyx link=topic=979.msg26350#msg26350 date=1217478491]
[quote author=Luca Shoal link=topic=979.msg26337#msg26337 date=1217475054]
Damn shame the GHIII guitars don't work with Rock Band.

no, but you can buy a third party guitar from gamestop or bestbuy for about $30 and it's identical to the 360 GH guitar.
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And that's $30 you shouldn't have to spend.
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well if they want to be cunts and make a shitty guitar i'll spend money on a company's product that will actually work instead of coping with a piece of junk, but yes, agreed.
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