Who are you voting for?

[cbre88x]

They've been busy ardently defending the (potential) vpilf.

lawl +1

Which composers specifically?

Shostakovitch
Reinhold Gliere (Who isn't even technically Russian)
Modest Mussorgsky
Pyotr Tchaikovsky
Sergei Rachmaninoff

[Benito Mussolini]

Yeah I really personally don't think this needs to be here, and not just because I don't (wouldn't) vote. It just leads to crap.

Way back at first page, I think this is the best post made in this thread.

[Eschatos]

I'm pretty disillusioned with the state of affairs in America right now.  I don't really like any of the candidates, but Obama is better than McCain in my eyes.  The one thing I think our economy needs is heavy tariffs or bans on big companies outsourcing all their work and manufacturing to China/India.  That's the reason our economy is in the shitter right now.  If any candidate proposed even a moderate version of that they'd have my vote straight away.  Unfortunately, all we have to vote for are the usual politicians.  America is so fucked up, and I don't see it fixing itself any time in the future, so I'm starting to seriously contemplate moving to Europe or Canada after I graduate from college.

[exanimo]

Shostakovitch
Reinhold Gliere (Who isn't even technically Russian)
Modest Mussorgsky
Pyotr Tchaikovsky
Sergei Rachmaninoff

Were they all in existence during hte soviet union?
FYI, I'm listening to to Van Cliburn now.

[Geoff]

[A. Crow]

[MrGrey]

look.. im sorry if i came across like a dick but this is a subject that I take to heart and when i see all the bullshit and corruption around me and people ignoring it, it really gets me upset.  So I apologize.

[Dave]

look.. im sorry if i came across like a dick but this is a subject that I take to heart and when i see all the bullshit and corruption around me and people ignoring it, it really gets me upset.  So I apologize.

who sent babies to fight dave?

[Surf314]

look.. im sorry if i came across like a dick but this is a subject that I take to heart and when i see all the bullshit and corruption around me and people ignoring it, it really gets me upset.  So I apologize.

We still love you, I get pissed too I mean a lot of the people I work with are republican - some the bad kind that are republican because the are religious (let me clarify I mean the people that are republican and want to force their religious and moral values on everyone) or hate muslims and think the terrorists are everywhere.  My dad is a republican too but the old fashion libertarian kind.  He's actually fought a lot of people that were trying to ban books in our local libraries.  So I mean I can understand you getting pissed, I've seen enough and heard enough to get really pissed too - but one of the lessons my dad taught me is that you can change things the most from inside and the person who looses their cool first usually looses.  I believe him because he was a big hippy so he knows both sides.

[CaffeinePowered]

look.. im sorry if i came across like a dick but this is a subject that I take to heart and when i see all the bullshit and corruption around me and people ignoring it, it really gets me upset.  So I apologize.

I know how you feel but I'm going to give it one more chance, I genuinely think that Obama might be able to pull of some good things and get this country back on track. I sort of feel like hes the kind of person that didn't really want to be president but a lot of people sort of forced him grudgingly into running.

[Luinbariel]

Well, its a politics thread; I personally think Mr. Grey just offered his opinion like anyone else, not something that is completely unheard of when referring to politics.

[Dave]

i think even with a badass leader like churchill your still gonna be fucked for well over 4 years, and you americans being as gullable as you are, there will be another republican back in power well before obama could do anything to make america safe.

[jorge]

10 bucks says McCain will have a heart attack halfway into his term if he gets elected.

And then Palin will be the face of Amurrikah. Wouldn't it be rawesome?

[MrGrey]

<3 luin yumyums

[cbre88x]

[quote author=cbre88x link=topic=1338.msg36523#msg36523 date=1220630169]
Shostakovitch
Reinhold Gliere (Who isn't even technically Russian)
Modest Mussorgsky
Pyotr Tchaikovsky
Sergei Rachmaninoff

Were they all in existence during hte soviet union?
FYI, I'm listening to to Van Cliburn now.
[/quote]

Shostakovitch, Gliere, and Rachmaninoff were. Rachmaninoff left Russia before the rise of Soviet Russia, though.

Modest died roughly 40 years before the start of the S.U. as did Tchaikovsky about 30 years before.

[Master Shake]

Biggest problem with our country right now. "Iraq - $12 billion [per month] in 2008"  I just think we need to focus on our own country and take care of the people living here first.

[Versus]

Obama.

I will be 17 years, 364 days old.

Fuck.

[ainmosni]

Please don't let it be yet another republican before we, as the rest of the world, have to do an intervention...

"Dear US, we love you and all but you have to admit you have a problem..."

[exanimo]

look.. im sorry if i came across like a dick but this is a subject that I take to heart and when i see all the bullshit and corruption around me and people ignoring it, it really gets me upset.  So I apologize.

Still love you, unfortunately. 
I don't think anyone really disagreed with you. Most people are just trying the best they can by voting (whether or not it does any good).

[cannedpeahes]

i asked him that cuz if he responded "yes" i was going to respond with "then forgive me" .. was suppose to be a joke

and you cant have an intelligent conversation about politics.. not possible.. i will call people dumb and ignorant because thats what they are.

doesnt mean they arent good people.. just means that most dont realize there is more to the story than what your TOLD.  Again.. if someone can logically explain what I stated before I will shut up.  And I'm tired of people getting their feelings hurt.. taking offense to something is proof of guilt.  The only person that can hurt your feelings is yourself, read the Four Agreements.. amazing book.

-__-

Can we let go of the conspiracy theories, pl0x?

I think the big problem we have with this election is a question of safety or risk. The Republican vote is a very safe vote - you can see this in McCain's campaign strategy, outlining specific policies and goals, etc. People know what to expect of McCain: a slow decline. Whereas with Obama, he's a man of mystery, in a way. He could drive this country into the ground, or he could come out as its savior. Nobody really knows what would happen if Obama got elected.

But it's still a fallacy to presume that the problems this country has will be solved in two terms of anybody's presidency. I know Obama's plans for energy reform and the prevention of offshoring industry both set endpoints beyond his presidency, in 2020. Anybody wanna check on McCain for me?