New rotation on the euro server!

[ainmosni]

The heavy update prompted me to put in a new rotation...

Here it is:

pl_badwater
cp_dustbowl
ctf_chaos
cp_warpath2
pl_goldrush
ctf_2fort
cp_starship_b3
cp_labor
cp_well
ctf_mach4
cp_steel
ctf_turbine
cp_gravelpit
cp_secret_base

I've added starship and secret base as test, see how europeans like our community mapper creations...

Comment please...

[Geoff]

No lumberyard?  Lame.

[CaffeinePowered]

No lumberyard?  Lame.

Arena fucks with the configs

[ainmosni]

[quote author=Geoff link=topic=1210.msg32133#msg32133 date=1219206484]
No lumberyard?  Lame.

Arena fucks with the configs
[/quote]

This.

Allthough I seemed to have fixed this so I might add Lumberyard... I like it...

[KarthXLR]

hrm.

If I ever visit you guys, I'll check it out.

[Budr]

cp_warpath2

I thought we chucked this out last week? I remember you (or someone?) complaining about it clearing the server and it's so stale now.

[ainmosni]

[quote author=ainmosni link=topic=1210.msg32124#msg32124 date=1219203202]
cp_warpath2

I thought we chucked this out last week? I remember you (or someone?) complaining about it clearing the server and it's so stale now.
[/quote]

I needed a good cp map... and this was the only one that I could think of... That or desert fortress...

[Vongore]

I like Warpath, is one of the most fun cp maps

[Eschatos]

[quote author=Budr link=topic=1210.msg32171#msg32171 date=1219225444]
[quote author=ainmosni link=topic=1210.msg32124#msg32124 date=1219203202]
cp_warpath2

I thought we chucked this out last week? I remember you (or someone?) complaining about it clearing the server and it's so stale now.
[/quote]

I needed a good cp map... and this was the only one that I could think of... That or desert fortress...
[/quote]

Desert Fortress is better.

[KorJax]

I like Warpath, is one of the most fun cp maps

Warpath is nice in design, but that's about it IMO.

It's really barren and no effort was spent of making it look nice at all, the whole 30 minute timer is just stupid, what is the point of having a setup for the map (especially one that is only 10-20 seconds long), stalemates are easy on it, there are no health cabinets or proper spawn rooms set up (this would require rebalance of their locations and/or when you can enter the spawn rooms if they did have them), and the underground path's shouldn't have that barrier that dies after 100+ bullets shot into it (it's just a giant gimmick).

The person who made it comes off as a guy who didn't know how to use Hammer to it's potential or never bothered to really "update" his map, but could come up with a good design.

[Geoff]

[quote author=Vongore link=topic=1210.msg32338#msg32338 date=1219259467]
I like Warpath, is one of the most fun cp maps

Warpath is nice in design, but that's about it IMO.

It's really barren and no effort was spent of making it look nice at all, the whole 30 minute timer is just stupid, what is the point of having a setup for the map (especially one that is only 10-20 seconds long), stalemates are easy on it, there are no health cabinets or proper spawn rooms set up (this would require rebalance of their locations and/or when you can enter the spawn rooms if they did have them), and the underground path's shouldn't have that barrier that dies after 100+ bullets shot into it (it's just a giant gimmick).

The person who made it comes off as a guy who didn't know how to use Hammer to it's potential or never bothered to really "update" his map, but could come up with a good design.
[/quote]

It's supposed to stay true to the tfc map.

[Eschatos]

I don't think any arena maps should be on regular rotation.  They're great, but it's not fun when only 16 out of 24 people can play at a time.  I'm all for RTVing to them when the server is less full.

[CaffeinePowered]

[quote author=KorJax link=topic=1210.msg32407#msg32407 date=1219278916]
[quote author=Vongore link=topic=1210.msg32338#msg32338 date=1219259467]
I like Warpath, is one of the most fun cp maps

Warpath is nice in design, but that's about it IMO.

It's really barren and no effort was spent of making it look nice at all, the whole 30 minute timer is just stupid, what is the point of having a setup for the map (especially one that is only 10-20 seconds long), stalemates are easy on it, there are no health cabinets or proper spawn rooms set up (this would require rebalance of their locations and/or when you can enter the spawn rooms if they did have them), and the underground path's shouldn't have that barrier that dies after 100+ bullets shot into it (it's just a giant gimmick).

The person who made it comes off as a guy who didn't know how to use Hammer to it's potential or never bothered to really "update" his map, but could come up with a good design.
[/quote]

It's supposed to stay true to the tfc map.
[/quote]


Yep, the area underneath used to be blown out by a demoman's detpack, but since those don't exist the next best substitute is to have a barrier you break down.

There wouldn't be 24/7 warpath server if it sucked

[Versus]

warpath ftw.

[at0m]

[quote author=Geoff link=topic=1210.msg32409#msg32409 date=1219279211]
[quote author=KorJax link=topic=1210.msg32407#msg32407 date=1219278916]
[quote author=Vongore link=topic=1210.msg32338#msg32338 date=1219259467]
I like Warpath, is one of the most fun cp maps

Warpath is nice in design, but that's about it IMO.

BLAH BLAH BLAH COMPLAIN COMPLAIN COMPLAIN
[/quote]

It's supposed to stay true to the tfc map.
[/quote]


Yep, the area underneath used to be blown out by a demoman's detpack, but since those don't exist the next best substitute is to have a barrier you break down.

There wouldn't be 24/7 warpath server if it sucked
[/quote]QFT

[KorJax]

Well yeah, but the problem is that TF2 is not TFC, hence that it doesn't quite work the same.

I love the map design but honestly it needs to be made to work with TF2's new stuff instead of forcing hard (and annoying) limitations.

I'm not someone who likes maps that just directly port from one game to another though.  If you are going to make a map based off of another one, at least make it work well in the game that it's being ported to and add your own visual flare to it... don't just copy+pasta

[at0m]

Well yeah, but the problem is that TF2 is not TFC, hence that it doesn't quite work the same.

I love the map design but honestly it needs to be made to work with TF2's new stuff instead of forcing hard (and annoying) limitations.

I'm not someone who likes maps that just directly port from one game to another though.  If you are going to make a map based off of another one, at least make it work well in the game that it's being ported to and add your own visual flare to it... don't just copy+pasta

Except the whole point of porting the map was to copypasta. That's why it is the way it is. If he'd renamed it <something>-path and _based_ it on the previous one, then ya sure what you said makes sense. Otherwise, eh, its a port of a classic map, and has all of the imbalances that the classic map has/had, or as many as he could accurately duplicate.

[CaffeinePowered]

Sometimes simple is better, Ill take an orange map over a stock if it plays better anyday

[ScottyGrayskull]

There wouldn't be 24/7 warpath server if it sucked

So does that mean 2fort is going back on the rotation for 1 (at least I think it's off atm)?