Heavy Updates... Next Week?

[at0m]

[quote author=at0m link=topic=1155.msg32776#msg32776 date=1219415829]
Some are no-brainers, though, like the Blutsauger and the melee unlocks for all three classes so far.

Except when you get hit by an essentially insta-kill stream of crits from a syringe gun and wonder why you switched. Personally, I'm still using the regular fireaxe, there's a definite trade-off involved.
[/quote]I prefer being able to out-damage a heavy and still have almost-full health every time than be able to _possibly_ kill something really fast. The Blutsauger fits ridiculously well with the way I play combat medic

[Loqutus]

[quote author=TDlove link=topic=1155.msg31920#msg31920 date=1219160537]
[quote author=CaffeinePowered link=topic=1155.msg31919#msg31919 date=1219160213]
Arena is going to suck, they claim 5 maps...bullshit, they made 2 and "reworked" 3 others. You know why a lot of servers either turn off sudden death or have stuff like melee only sudden death?

Cause no one wants to fight, and thats exactly what this is going to be.

i think their intent is to cater to the competitive crowd. i honestly don't expect any pubs to run it, but i am looking forward to 1000's of scrims with the pwny crew :-X
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Even with the competitive crowd, thats not how I would want to play TF2, its going to make several classes next to worthless, like engineers. For example in the "arena" well the first team to either kill all of the opposing team or to capture the center point wins.

The only way an engineer is going to be useful is if its like Loqutus playing, and even then in a competitive environment you aren't going to get that gun up likely.

Sniper and Spy will be huge due to the one hit kill, and since most maps dont have med-packs that puts increased emphasis on medics and pyros. Some people will like it, but don't expect to see it on #1 much, maybe if duck likes it he might toss it on #2 sometimes. The other problem is this seems like a game mode that begs to be no-crit, but they will still delist servers for doing that.
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Thanks, Caff. That's a nice thing to say.

[CaffeinePowered]

Thanks, Caff. That's a nice thing to say.

Can't tell if being sarcastic or not, but you could take what I said as a genuine compliment, your O-engi is deadly <3

Ive come to find arena not as bad as I originally thought, but I still think it places too much emphasis on a few classes, especially flare gun wielding pyros, snipers, and medics.

[jdub28]

has anybody noticed, a jump in frame rate after the update, the game is playable on my laptop without 640x400,

[Loqutus]

[quote author=Loqutus link=topic=1155.msg32992#msg32992 date=1219471691]

Thanks, Caff. That's a nice thing to say.

Can't tell if being sarcastic or not, but you could take what I said as a genuine compliment, your O-engi is deadly <3

Ive come to find arena not as bad as I originally thought, but I still think it places too much emphasis on a few classes, especially flare gun wielding pyros, snipers, and medics.
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No sarcasm, I meant it.

I like Arena for the adrenaline boost it gives me... being the last red against 3 or 4 blu's and pulling out the win is fantastic.

[copulatingduck]

has anybody noticed, a jump HUGE DROP in frame rate after the update

Not this specific update, but in general for the last few months I've noticed my performance is just getting shittier and shittier, despite a GPU upgrade from an ATi x1950Pro to an nVidia 8800GT. I keep stuff on medium to low (no AA, bilinear filtering, etc etc) and I can hit a peak of 60fps if I'm very lucky on most maps.

[KarthXLR]

[quote author=jdub28 link=topic=1155.msg33058#msg33058 date=1219510446]
has anybody noticed, a jump HUGE DROP in frame rate after the update

Not this specific update, but in general for the last few months I've noticed my performance is just getting shittier and shittier, despite a GPU upgrade from an ATi x1950Pro to an nVidia 8800GT. I keep stuff on medium to low (no AA, bilinear filtering, etc etc) and I can hit a peak of 60fps if I'm very lucky on most maps.
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Not only that, but me, spore, and a few other spy players have noticed that backstabbing is much harder now. The hit detection is off pretty badly, but now there are more facestabs. :/ As a matter of fact, it's getting much easier to manipulate a backstab with each update.

I think Valve needs to consider fixing the hitboxes for the next update.

[ZargonX]

[quote author=Copulating8=====D link=topic=1155.msg33482#msg33482 date=1219630531]
[quote author=jdub28 link=topic=1155.msg33058#msg33058 date=1219510446]
has anybody noticed, a jump HUGE DROP in frame rate after the update

Not this specific update, but in general for the last few months I've noticed my performance is just getting shittier and shittier, despite a GPU upgrade from an ATi x1950Pro to an nVidia 8800GT. I keep stuff on medium to low (no AA, bilinear filtering, etc etc) and I can hit a peak of 60fps if I'm very lucky on most maps.
[/quote]
Not only that, but me, spore, and a few other spy players have noticed that backstabbing is much harder now. The hit detection is off pretty badly, but now there are more facestabs. :/ As a matter of fact, it's getting much easier to manipulate a backstab with each update.

I think Valve needs to consider fixing the hitboxes for the next update.
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Yeah, I don't know if it's new lag problems or what, but I find I'm being facestabbed far more often than I'm being backstabbed since the release...

[Wedge]

[quote author=jdub28 link=topic=1155.msg33058#msg33058 date=1219510446]
has anybody noticed, a jump HUGE DROP in frame rate after the update

Not this specific update, but in general for the last few months I've noticed my performance is just getting shittier and shittier, despite a GPU upgrade from an ATi x1950Pro to an nVidia 8800GT. I keep stuff on medium to low (no AA, bilinear filtering, etc etc) and I can hit a peak of 60fps if I'm very lucky on most maps.
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How much have you tried messing around with stuff on your computer?  That card should eat TF2 alive, I run max settings without a hitch in framerate on that thing...  If your performance has been degrading over time, it makes it sound like your computer is more in need of maintenance instead of anything TF2 has been doing... I'd assume you've at least tried reinstalling it or something?

[Scary Womanizing Pig Mask]

Yeah I've had some weird lag jumps when playing. Not sure if thats from the update or my shoddy internet connection though

[cbre88x]

How much have you tried messing around with stuff on your computer?  That card should eat TF2 alive, I run max settings without a hitch in framerate on that thing...  If your performance has been degrading over time, it makes it sound like your computer is more in need of maintenance instead of anything TF2 has been doing... I'd assume you've at least tried reinstalling it or something?

Wedge..this has been a problem since the first set of updates..I have the same problem and they have yet to fix it.

I also get those weird lag jumps since the latest update.

[[fr31ns]Karrde]

maybe cpu limited?  what're you running jdub?

[Eschatos]

[quote author=Copulating8=====D link=topic=1155.msg33482#msg33482 date=1219630531]
[quote author=jdub28 link=topic=1155.msg33058#msg33058 date=1219510446]
has anybody noticed, a jump HUGE DROP in frame rate after the update

Not this specific update, but in general for the last few months I've noticed my performance is just getting shittier and shittier, despite a GPU upgrade from an ATi x1950Pro to an nVidia 8800GT. I keep stuff on medium to low (no AA, bilinear filtering, etc etc) and I can hit a peak of 60fps if I'm very lucky on most maps.
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How much have you tried messing around with stuff on your computer?  That card should eat TF2 alive, I run max settings without a hitch in framerate on that thing...   If your performance has been degrading over time, it makes it sound like your computer is more in need of maintenance instead of anything TF2 has been doing... I'd assume you've at least tried reinstalling it or something?
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That is odd.  My two year old PC gets a great framerate 99% of the time.

[Versus]

[quote author=Copulating8=====D link=topic=1155.msg33482#msg33482 date=1219630531]
[quote author=jdub28 link=topic=1155.msg33058#msg33058 date=1219510446]
has anybody noticed, a jump HUGE DROP in frame rate after the update

Not this specific update, but in general for the last few months I've noticed my performance is just getting shittier and shittier, despite a GPU upgrade from an ATi x1950Pro to an nVidia 8800GT. I keep stuff on medium to low (no AA, bilinear filtering, etc etc) and I can hit a peak of 60fps if I'm very lucky on most maps.
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Not only that, but me, spore, and a few other spy players have noticed that backstabbing is much harder now. The hit detection is off pretty badly, but now there are more facestabs. :/ As a matter of fact, it's getting much easier to manipulate a backstab with each update.

I think Valve needs to consider fixing the hitboxes for the next update.
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Yeah, backstabbing is really bad.

duck: I got a better framerate with my 8800GT stock clocked than with my dual OC'd 4850s :

[copulatingduck]

Wedge: Idk, I have a fresh windows install and everything. I defragged the cache files and that seems to be helping a lot.

As for CPU, I've got an AMD X2 4200+, I mean, it's not great, but it ain't terrible either.  :'(

Seriously though, fuck how finicky TF2 performance is. (I run 1440x900 which makes a bit of difference, but still...)

[Vongore]

this update performance is killing me

I had to run the game on a lower directx something (as duck told me) and now it's even worse

[Surf314]

I defragged recently too and I've been running very well.

[Fail Medic]

(scratches head)  Not boasting or anything, but, I'm not noticing this performance drop across the patches.  I'm only getting that three-month-itch thing that prompts me to reformat, but I was fighting that before TF2.