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07-04-2010, 05:45 PM

Finished as of 8/08/10.

Case: Cooler Master Scout Black ATX Tower Case (Mid Tower)
Power Supply: Corsair TX750W 750W ATX 12V 60A 24PIN ATX Power Supply Active PFC 140MM Fan
Motherboard: ASUS P6X58D-E LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Processor: ntel Core i7-930 Bloomfield 2.8GHz 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Desktop Processor
Memory: Corsair XMS3 6GB (3 x 2GB)
Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Black WD1501FASS 1.5TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
DVD/Blu-Ray Drive: Some Samsung generic drive.
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 470
Heatsink: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus
Monitor: Acer G245H 24in Widescreen LCD 1920x1080 80000:1 5ms VGA DVI-D HDMI Monitor

Rated 5.9 on the Windows scaled thing out of 7.9.

Quote:i told him i knew things about building computers
i obviously dont, so thats why im comin to you guys. because you're fucking awesome, and stuff.

he gave me some weird tips though: he wants to be able to run starcraft 2, period. i think SC2 will be easy to run and i say give him something that will run SC2 like a fucking beast on steroids
anyways

Price Range: $1000-1200 CANADIAN
everything else he has no clue about, so basically just get a list together (make sure its canadian boys)

thanks for helping
also Hek i did tell him about the computer place in Winnipeg, says he'll go there, but i dont believe him

EDIT: okay he said that there's one for sure thing that he's buying right now: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.asp...-_-Product
in fact i think he already bought it for cheaper somewhere so :/
but anyways he says he is contemplating SLI or CrossFire and i've heard bad stuff about them so comments? and graphics cards plox



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07-04-2010, 09:12 PM

Uh, if he has no idea how to go about building his computer and you don't have similar technical know-how to guide him, it may be a safer option to go pre-assembled.

http://www.ibuypower.com/
http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/

You can't beat self-building for a learning experience, but it doesn't sound like that matters in this case. These sites are pretty reasonable in terms of pricing, plus you get warrantees. Check Toms Hardware for picking out individual parts. It's not too hard, and you might be able to back up your claims about knowing things about computer hardware with only an hour or two of research.
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07-04-2010, 10:43 PM

(07-04-2010, 09:12 PM)Eightball link Wrote: Uh, if he has no idea how to go about building his computer and you don't have similar technical know-how to guide him, it may be a safer option to go pre-assembled.

http://www.ibuypower.com/
http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/

You can't beat self-building for a learning experience, but it doesn't sound like that matters in this case. These sites are pretty reasonable in terms of pricing, plus you get warranties. Check Toms Hardware for picking out individual parts. It's not too hard, and you might be able to back up your claims about knowing things about computer hardware with only an hour or two of research.

Grow a pair, build your own.

I knew nothing, then I got the parts, and then I built it, then I knew what the difference between the RAM and the CPU was.

Also, I can't work with Canadian dollars here. Don't know which computer parts are and are not compatible with them.


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07-04-2010, 11:16 PM

(07-04-2010, 09:12 PM)Eightball link Wrote: Uh, if he has no idea how to go about building his computer and you don't have similar technical know-how to guide him, it may be a safer option to go pre-assembled.
well one of his friends recently got his computer built as well, but for a lower price and lower specs, so thats why im here asking you guys because you truly do know a lot

(07-04-2010, 10:43 PM)Didzo link Wrote: Grow a pair, build your own.

I knew nothing, then I got the parts, and then I built it, then I knew what the difference between the RAM and the CPU was.

Also, I can't work with Canadian dollars here. Don't know which computer parts are and are not compatible with them.
well if you're working with newegg.com just go to newegg.ca
basically click country and change it to canada, right? or use a money converter

canadian dollar is about .95 american, so that would be... 1060-1280 for an american price range



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07-04-2010, 11:56 PM

(07-04-2010, 11:16 PM)TheDarkChief link Wrote: well if you're working with newegg.com just go to newegg.ca
basically click country and change it to canada, right? or use a money converter

canadian dollar is about .95 american, so that would be... 1060-1280 for an american price range

Only most computer parts are cheaper in Canada then the states due to our import dutys.

(07-04-2010, 05:45 PM)TheDarkChief link Wrote: also Hek i did tell him about the computer place in Winnipeg, says he'll go there, but i dont believe him

That's all I ask.
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07-05-2010, 03:11 AM

Aight, so I have, yet again, arbitrarily tossed together some parts that seem to be half decent and are probably perfectly compatible with each other.

Graphics: Radeon HD 5850
Power: Thermaltake 675W PSU
DVD/CD: Some random Samsung
Case: Antec 300
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 750GB
RAM: CORSAIR XMS3 4GB DDR3 1600
CPU and Mobo: AMD 965 quad core and ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3

Total: ~$1065 Canadian
Notes: The graphics card I chose is a bit pricey, so money could be shaved off there easily. 750GB should be more than enough hard drive space. PSU is also likely overkill and isn't exactly as cheap as it could be, but I'd rather not get something that won't fail and set the house on fire. I can vouch for the CPU being awesome, and the mobo it comes with seems excellent as well. 4GB of speedy RAM should be plenty, and it should play nice with the mobo. As far as the case goes, the Antec 300 seems popular, has decent cooling, and has a neutral design. Basically, the case can be as big, small, flashy, or plain as you like. It's personal preference.




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07-05-2010, 08:52 AM

at first i was going to post something about
/rage another one of these threads

then i read it all and saw dizdo reccomending another ati/amd combo, because your friend will like spending his time troubleshooting driver errors

it seemed sort of pointless, so i didnt make a post.
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07-05-2010, 11:04 AM

(07-05-2010, 08:52 AM)Vandamguy link Wrote: then i read it all and saw dizdo reccomending another ati/amd combo, because your friend will like spending his time troubleshooting driver errors

Roffles, bro. Well played.


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07-05-2010, 02:42 PM

(07-05-2010, 11:04 AM)Kor link Wrote: [quote author=Vandamguy link=topic=4775.msg162247#msg162247 date=1278337964]
then i read it all and saw dizdo reccomending another ati/amd combo, because your friend will like spending his time troubleshooting driver errors

Roffles, bro. Well played.
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I've never had a single issue with ATI (5 computers in my house running on ATI graphics), so I don't know what everyone is bitching about.

Also, feel free to help out by recommending a build of your own, or telling the OP to fuck off and just buy a Dell or something. Because Dell desktops are the best things money can buy.

What exactly is your vision of what kind of threads should populate the computer section?


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07-07-2010, 02:50 PM

my AMD/ATI combo came out pretty great. Only trouble I had was with the catalyst 10.6 drivers for the graphics card that wouldn't let me use the manual fan control. So, I went back to the 10.4 and now everything is great.
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07-07-2010, 03:57 PM

(07-05-2010, 02:42 PM)Didzo link Wrote: [quote author=Kor link=topic=4775.msg162257#msg162257 date=1278345896]
[quote author=Vandamguy link=topic=4775.msg162247#msg162247 date=1278337964]
then i read it all and saw dizdo reccomending another ati/amd combo, because your friend will like spending his time troubleshooting driver errors

Roffles, bro. Well played.
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I've never had a single issue with ATI (5 computers in my house running on ATI graphics), so I don't know what everyone is bitching about.

Also, feel free to help out by recommending a build of your own, or telling the OP to fuck off and just buy a Dell or something. Because Dell desktops are the best things money can buy.

What exactly is your vision of what kind of threads should populate the computer section?
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I think it's Intel/nVidia combos.



I as well have owned like 6 Radeons and never had a problem, except those I created manually.


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07-08-2010, 01:09 AM

creating problems manually is the best way to learn


(04-09-2013, 11:24 PM)Dr. Zaius link Wrote:well i'm not really understanding how it's faster internet. and like google just magically rolls outs this stuff and it's 100 times faster than my internet? why? that doesn't set off any alarms to anyone?

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THE BARTENDER WAS BRAGGING ABOUT BEING A LEFTY. I SAID I WAS A RIGHTY, BUT THAT I COULD UNDO A BRA WITH JUST MY LEFT HAND. ASKED HER IF THAT COUNTED AS BEING AMBIDEXTROUS. SHE SAID 'NOT REALLY'. tHEN HANDED ME ANOTHER DRINK.

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07-14-2010, 12:28 AM

he says he is contemplating SLI or CrossFire and i've heard bad stuff about them so comments? and graphics cards plox. is this card good i've heard a lot of people getting it so just questions really



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07-14-2010, 12:58 AM

(07-14-2010, 12:28 AM)TheDarkChief link Wrote: he says he is contemplating SLI or CrossFire and i've heard bad stuff about them so comments? and graphics cards plox. is this card good i've heard a lot of people getting it so just questions really

Yes.

Is good.



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07-14-2010, 01:09 AM

or get a 5870



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07-14-2010, 01:11 AM

(07-14-2010, 12:28 AM)TheDarkChief link Wrote: he says he is contemplating SLI or CrossFire and i've heard bad stuff about them so comments? and graphics cards plox. is this card good i've heard a lot of people getting it so just questions really
I don't know anything about CrossFire, but scar11 has SLI'd 8800GT, and he is underwhelmed by the performance boost over just one card. He reports a 10-fps increase across some games, with others showing no improvement (I guess no support for multiple rendering). But along with that came the large increase in power consumption and heat. Even though he got the card from me for free, he's thinking about moving off from it.

So no, I would stay away. It doesn't seem cost-effective at all. That card looks good; a little high-end for my wallet but you can't argue with those review scores.
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07-14-2010, 02:03 AM

SLI and crossfire is shit and is only good for your epeen


(04-09-2013, 11:24 PM)Dr. Zaius link Wrote:well i'm not really understanding how it's faster internet. and like google just magically rolls outs this stuff and it's 100 times faster than my internet? why? that doesn't set off any alarms to anyone?

(11-07-2012, 11:15 PM)at0m link Wrote:I MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE OVERINDULGED ON RUM AND COKES AT OUTBACK STEAKHOUSE

THE BARTENDER WAS BRAGGING ABOUT BEING A LEFTY. I SAID I WAS A RIGHTY, BUT THAT I COULD UNDO A BRA WITH JUST MY LEFT HAND. ASKED HER IF THAT COUNTED AS BEING AMBIDEXTROUS. SHE SAID 'NOT REALLY'. tHEN HANDED ME ANOTHER DRINK.

I COUN THAT AS A WIN

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07-14-2010, 02:07 AM

He won't need to or want to crossfire if he's buying a $300 card.

He'll just get a new, better card in a few years if he feels the need.



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07-14-2010, 02:13 AM

5850 is good, its what i have
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07-14-2010, 03:40 AM

If he decides that his GPU budget can reach 400 dollars, it would be good to look at two GTX 460's. Benchmarks place it at around an 80 to 90 percent FPS increase over a single card which for around $430 total can nearly match an 800 dollar dual 5870 rig or a 5970 which is around $650. I mean, that is pretty bad ass... Make sure to look for the 1GB version though.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gefo...,2684.html


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