Team Fortress: Veterans vs. Neophytes

[Fail Medic]

I fall in the former category.  Where do you fall?

[Wedge]

Never played older ones.  I've only played PC games in general for maybe five years now?

[CaffeinePowered]

I started with TFC, but I have tried TF for quake 2.

I miss the old physics and crazy shit you could do in TFC

[ainmosni]

I've played the Quake I Team Fortress but that was in a previous life and I forgot all about it so I voted "Neophyte"... the only thing I remember from the Quake version is a very brown version of 2fort...

[rumsfald]

q3f was the first "tf" I played with any regularity
I always had tfc but no one I knew played it.  back in those days I played cs (beta 7.6 i think) then DoD then Natural Selection.  with several other q3 mods in there (q3 rocket arena, navy seals (or was that UT))....

[Versus]

I remember a few experiences with TFC.

[Neonie]

I've always been more of a console gamer and never really knew what Team Fortress wes till the Friday Night fight postings.

[Vandamguy]

ol' schoola here.

tfc was the first 3d FPS i'd ever played

[Luca Shoal]

I've always been more of a console gamer and never really knew what Team Fortress wes till the Friday Night fight postings.

QFT, and Dtoid in general.

[Kor]

Conc jump here, cunts.

[CaffeinePowered]

Conc jump here, cunts.

True Skill:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfm4l-TA2...re=related

[ZargonX]

I used to play Quake TF a ton long, long ago.  I missed out on TFC entirely.

[Surf314]

My memory is fuzzy, but I used to play a hella lot of counter strike and team fortress when they were mods.  And I remember getting all pissed when I saw them in stores for like money and stuff.  And I remember mostly playing just to have fun, but a couple clans wanted me and my friend to join and we ended up joining one of them.  And then I sort of lost interest.

I was also huge into IRC and all that other jive.  One day I just sort of dropped it all for some reason...Oh now I remember.  It was marijuana.

[jorge]

I played TFC a couple of times.

[Black Aspen]

TFC was one of my favourite games, and pretty much my introduction to online FPSs, so it'll always have a place in my heart.  Never played any other version of TF aside from TFC and TF2.

It opened up so much for me as an introduction to the world of HL mods.  I was still playing HL1 mods up until TF2 came out.

[exanimo]

My friend, genital warfare got me into TFC, concing first. Then moar came from that.
I hope you like metal;
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=...0792551260

[CaffeinePowered]

My friend, genital warfare got me into TFC, concing first. Then moar came from that.
I hope you like metal;
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=...0792551260

I really wish TF2 still had this

So much fun, and the skill gap between good/bad players it created was absolutely ridiculous

[Surf314]

These videos are really sparking my memory on this stuff.

[Chooly]

I havn't played much beyond TF2 that has the Team Fortress Label.
That said before TF2 I mostly played Tremulous.

[exanimo]

I really wish TF2 still had this

So much fun, and the skill gap between good/bad players it created was absolutely ridiculous

Game differences like this really make me question what gaming is all about. In my article,The Future of Gaming is Doomed I attempt to touch base with this.  What makes a great game great?  Are games supposed to be challenging, and meant to be played competitively, or are they there just to have fun? Is it a mix of both?

Personally, I hate all single player games, if there is no multi player, it's not even worth my time. (That's right, I kind of hate standard RPGs, so sue me (I did get addicted to Chrono Trigger, but I was young, and foolish)).  For me a good game has community, and multi player.  But with multi player comes competitiveness.  I'm a big supporter of league play and competition.  But on the other end of the spectrum, games are intended to just be fun that's it.  Competition doesn't mean fun for everyone.

I mean when talking about a sport, you don't see them dumbing it down so everyone has equal opportunity to play, and play well. Instead, you see people practicing, playing harder, and having more 'natural' skill in the game.  But is gaming supposed to be like a sport? With a huge learning curve and a large player gap?

I guess the argument goes both ways and you can't really find an answer.  But there is no denying that there has been a  general 'dumbing down' in the video game industry recently.