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Trace · 02-11-2011, 02:38 PM

(02-11-2011, 02:21 PM)Eschatos link Wrote: [quote author=Surf314 link=topic=3397.msg195977#msg195977 date=1297390127]
I've decided I am a big big fan of Veigar.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.Â Veigar is a bad champion.Â Many others can give the same burst but with much less squishiness.
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However, if you play as well as my buddy plays him, no one can build ap faster. Which basically means getting every last hit with baleful.

**Surf314** · 02-11-2011, 05:56 PM

(02-11-2011, 02:38 PM)Trace link Wrote: [quote author=Eschatos link=topic=3397.msg196090#msg196090 date=1297452083]
[quote author=Surf314 link=topic=3397.msg195977#msg195977 date=1297390127]
I've decided I am a big big fan of Veigar.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.Â Veigar is a bad champion.Â Many others can give the same burst but with much less squishiness.
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However, if you play as well as my buddy plays him, no one can build ap faster. Which basically means getting every last hit with baleful.
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Yea I keep ending up with a shit load of AP with him, but because he is so squishy I am not much help in team fights. Therefore I might move on in a bit. Any other good caster recommendations?

Trace · 02-11-2011, 06:11 PM

Annivia, kassadin, vladimir are a few that come to mind if you want a carry caster.

**Surf314** · 02-12-2011, 02:20 PM

Tried annivia and liked her, also all my random teams have been super shitty lately.

zaneyard · 02-12-2011, 03:57 PM

random teams are always shitty

**Kor** · 02-12-2011, 05:03 PM

(02-12-2011, 03:57 PM)zaneyard link Wrote: random teams are always shitty

Not true, went 7-1-18 with Lux on a pubbie team. Just need to type shit out, L2ping.

**Surf314** · 02-13-2011, 10:40 AM

I just played against a shitty pubby team, felt bad for them.

zaneyard · 02-13-2011, 01:39 PM

(02-12-2011, 05:03 PM)Kor link Wrote: [quote author=zaneyard link=topic=3397.msg196267#msg196267 date=1297544264]
random teams are always shitty

Not true, went 7-1-18 with Lux on a pubbie team. Just need to type shit out, L2ping.
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being able to coordinate in real time on comms > typing

**Kor** · 02-13-2011, 03:41 PM

(02-13-2011, 01:39 PM)zaneyard link Wrote: [quote author=Kor link=topic=3397.msg196277#msg196277 date=1297548215]
[quote author=zaneyard link=topic=3397.msg196267#msg196267 date=1297544264]
random teams are always shitty

Not true, went 7-1-18 with Lux on a pubbie team. Just need to type shit out, L2ping.
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being able to coordinate in real time on comms > typing
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Apples and Oranges in your argument. I'm arguing that with basic communication, you can be successful. You're arguing that Voice comm is better than typing. Within the context of your original compliant, I'm providing a solution, you are making an assertion.

zaneyard · 02-13-2011, 11:38 PM

generally a premade team that can talk together will perform better than a random team.

and when you play premade you don't get some dbag that instalocks karthus or some shit like that at least you can talk about it before hand.

02-14-2011, 08:09 AM

(02-13-2011, 11:38 PM)zaneyard link Wrote: generally a premade team that can talk together will perform better than a random team.

and when you play premade you don't get some dbag that instalocks karthus or some shit like that at least you can talk about it before hand.

if sum1 insta lokz karthus i know its going 2 be a good game bkuz hes a karthus xpert.

**Surf314** · 02-14-2011, 08:27 AM

Annivia and Janna are boss mode.

02-14-2011, 09:25 AM

(02-14-2011, 08:27 AM)Surf314 link Wrote: Annivia and Janna are boss mode.

tornado from the bushes is OP, and probably the best early game harass

zaneyard · 02-14-2011, 12:55 PM

(02-14-2011, 08:09 AM)Vandamguy link Wrote: [quote author=zaneyard link=topic=3397.msg196407#msg196407 date=1297658333]
generally a premade team that can talk together will perform better than a random team.

and when you play premade you don't get some dbag that instalocks karthus or some shit like that at least you can talk about it before hand.

if sum1 insta lokz karthus i know its going 2 be a good game bkuz hes a karthus xpert.
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brazil #1 huehuehuehuehue

If-I-Die-Its-Lag · 02-14-2011, 01:29 PM

So, I tried using Udyr on my smurf so that I can get a hang of jungling.

I had fun, but the main problem was that my team is shit.

Trace · 02-14-2011, 01:34 PM

Yea udyr really isn't the carry I was hoping he would be.Â :'(

If-I-Die-Its-Lag · 02-14-2011, 01:44 PM

(02-14-2011, 01:34 PM)Trace link Wrote: Yea udyr really isn't the carry I was hoping he would be.Â :'(

Still won though.

Went 7/9/17 with him. Couldn't jungle that game.

**Surf314** · 02-14-2011, 01:46 PM

I'm gonna go try Karthus so I can be pro.

**Kor** · 02-14-2011, 03:20 PM

(02-14-2011, 08:27 AM)Surf314 link Wrote: Annivia and Janna are boss mode.

Something for you Surf.

How To Win Every Game in League of Legends

(02-14-2011, 01:34 PM)Trace link Wrote: Yea udyr really isn't the carry I was hoping he would be.Â :'(

Udyr is super carry. Bloodrazor/2xPhantom Dancers(Double Zeal in most games)/Infinity Edge rapes casters in 2 stance swaps(Bear>Tiger) and tanks in 5. He's a carry, just need 3 early game kills for the cash.

(02-14-2011, 01:46 PM)Surf314 link Wrote: I'm gonna go try Karthus so I can be pro.

I'm pre-emptively hating you for hiting R every 90 seconds.

Trace · 02-14-2011, 04:19 PM

(02-14-2011, 03:20 PM)Kor link Wrote: [quote author=Trace link=topic=3397.msg196475#msg196475 date=1297708490]
Yea udyr really isn't the carry I was hoping he would be.Â :'(

Udyr is super carry. Bloodrazor/2xPhantom Dancers(Double Zeal in most games)/Infinity Edge rapes casters in 2 stance swaps(Bear>Tiger) and tanks in 5. He's a carry, just need 3 early game kills for the cash.
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This is true but I just find that other carries can match his damage output with a lot less items. Sure he has a lot of utility but if you want a straight carry there are better choices I think.

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