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AMCZombine
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#1
09-01-2011, 06:49 AM

Ordered a bunch of parts on suggestion, put them together and realized I really don't know what the hells going on.

Copy pasted all the parts I now have.

LITE-ON DVD Burner - Bulk Black SATA Model iHAS124-04 - OEM

AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ955FBGMBOX

Western Digital Caviar Blue WDBAAX5000ENC-NRSN 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive

ASUS M5A97 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-8GBRL

CORSAIR Enthusiast Series CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply

EVGA 01G-P3-1371-TR GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

COOLER MASTER Elite NV-334-KWN1-GP Black SECC ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

This is the wishlist it was part of:
http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/Public...r=16677012

Apparently there's a lot of special things you have to know about how to make it work beyond putting together normal parts, and I have no idea what they are, special features that you have to do whatever before anything works, etc.
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#2
09-01-2011, 09:36 AM

There's no way to give you an answer when you won't tell us the problem. "It doesn't work" means 100 different things. You need to tell us EXACTLY what the problem is.
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09-01-2011, 09:55 AM

I agree with Karth. We're smart, we need problems to solve or we get bored, but what you've given us is along the lines of "The car won't go."

In order for us to help, the description you give us has to have location, scope, expected behavior, and observed behavior.

What we'd ideally like to see is something along the lines of this: "When I turn my PC on, it should show me the memory test and then start windows, but instead I get a black screen, and I hear one long beep and two short beeps".

Please tell us what's wrong.


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09-01-2011, 11:34 AM

(09-01-2011, 09:55 AM)k0ala link Wrote: I agree with Karth. We're smart, we need problems to solve or we get bored, but what you've given us is along the lines of "The car won't go."

In order for us to help, the description you give us has to have location, scope, expected behavior, and observed behavior.

What we'd ideally like to see is something along the lines of this: "When I turn my PC on, it should show me the memory test and then start windows, but instead I get a black screen, and I hear one long beep and two short beeps".

Please tell us what's wrong.

After trying to get video took it to the PC repair place they were able to get another gfx card to work, which I was supposed to install the new cards drivers on.

Tried to install the drivers with the old pci card they had for that, CD said it needed the other gfx card in, so I rebooted and got no video at all after that ever, and the shop couldn't fix it. according to the manual, I need to have no other cards or drivers in, according to the CD I need the card in to do it the way the store recommends, which is OS first then card drivers then card.

When I turned it on, got nothing no beeps but the light would go, the cd drive would automatically retract upon opening, and eventually just took apart and  put it back together and got the cd drive to work normally, no sound. (apparently I need to do something special to get mobo sound beyond what you'd do normally)

Also, I'm really tired so I might not make a lot of sense right now :p
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09-01-2011, 11:43 AM

It doesn't sound like you got all the information you needed.

I would go back to the store with a pen and paper and write down what the guys are telling you.

Someone very smart with a big white mustache said "If you write everything down, you don't have to remember it."


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09-01-2011, 01:13 PM

(09-01-2011, 09:55 AM)k0ala link Wrote: I agree with Karth. We're smart, we need problems to solve or we get bored, but what you've given us is along the lines of "The car won't go."

Recently welded diff?
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09-01-2011, 03:20 PM

(09-01-2011, 01:13 PM)HeK link Wrote: [quote author=k0ala link=topic=5904.msg221060#msg221060 date=1314888935]
I agree with Karth. We're smart, we need problems to solve or we get bored, but what you've given us is along the lines of "The car won't go."

Recently welded diff?
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Kibbles in the intake manifold is my guess.




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09-02-2011, 12:27 AM

From what I understand, he dun goof'd. It SOUNDS like he tried installing the display adapter before the OS (which I don't think is possible), which might have been for the wrong card anyways. So now he has a driver for the wrong card or something and can't get the Comp to turn on at all.

If that's the situation, you should be able to remove the video card and access the PC normally. Then, you ought to trash the drivers that came with the card. They're outdated and you can get the latest and greatest one from here. After the install, it'll ask you to restart, so you should one-up it and shut down the computer. As soon as it's off, it's officially running off that nvidia driver, and you can stick in the 460 before you turn it back on.

Hope that solves your problem, but you're still being pretty vague.
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09-02-2011, 05:22 AM

(09-02-2011, 12:27 AM)Karth link Wrote: installing the display adapter before the OS (which I don't think is possible)



You can plug in any video card before any OS is ever installed and it will work just fine. How else does your monitor receive input at POST and in the BIOS menus? There's no fancy drivers there.


You won't have 3d capability until you install the vendor specific driver set, but then again, that's not what universal drivers are for. They're for running any video card you have plugged in at the bare minimum to display your desktop to install drivers.


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09-02-2011, 09:00 AM

Just as a point of reference, Keen told me he was frustrated earlier because he made an attempt to install the AwesomeCard drivers, swapped it out for RegularCard,  and then tried to uninstall the AwesomeCard drivers and now "it won't show up at all with either card".

I've told him to put the regular card back in and attempt an external CMOS reset, then boot up and it -should- work.

In any case he needs to tell us exactly what shows up, because "doesn't work" means anything: "wrong resolution", "shows Japanese text instead of English", "blank screen", "on fire".


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09-02-2011, 10:13 AM

(09-02-2011, 05:22 AM)Kirby the Dick link Wrote: [quote author=Karth link=topic=5904.msg221138#msg221138 date=1314941269]
installing the display adapter before the OS (which I don't think is possible)



You can plug in any video card before any OS is ever installed and it will work just fine. How else does your monitor receive input at POST and in the BIOS menus? There's no fancy drivers there.


You won't have 3d capability until you install the vendor specific driver set, but then again, that's not what universal drivers are for. They're for running any video card you have plugged in at the bare minimum to display your desktop to install drivers.
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er...I meant to say driver.
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09-02-2011, 04:25 PM

(09-01-2011, 03:20 PM)Kirby the Dick link Wrote: [quote author=HeK link=topic=5904.msg221077#msg221077 date=1314900824]
[quote author=k0ala link=topic=5904.msg221060#msg221060 date=1314888935]
I agree with Karth. We're smart, we need problems to solve or we get bored, but what you've given us is along the lines of "The car won't go."

Recently welded diff?
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Kibbles in the intake manifold is my guess.



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#13
09-02-2011, 05:33 PM

Write what happened from the moment you recieved the parts to posting here.

What CD did they want you to use?

Edit: Try the other PCI-E slot. I just read a thread somewhere in which the first pci-e slot returned no video, but the second did.


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09-05-2011, 04:44 PM

Recap: the issue is that AMC can not receive and type of video from his new rig, everything powers on. POST does not appear.

He's going to RMA it. Due to the mobo have no onboard video it has made troubleshooting difficult.

The computer repair shop gave AMC a very old PCI graphics card that probably was able to get to install windows 7, but could not handle the graphic requirements. It is not due to the graphics card, AMC connected it to his current computer and it ran fine. I suspect the power supply or the motherboard to be bad. Motherboard's PCI-E slots are most likely bad, since we've tried two graphics cards that are PCI-E. It does not however rule out the power supply.

Resetting the CMOS had no effect on the issue.



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09-05-2011, 05:15 PM

Did you try booting it with nothing but the video card and cpu?
No drives or memory?
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09-05-2011, 05:21 PM

(09-05-2011, 05:15 PM)HeK link Wrote: Did you try booting it with nothing but the video card and cpu?
No drives or memory?
We did, even though it was by miscommunication. Tested w/o drives and no memory, and test w/o drives but w/ 1 stick of memory. No video still.


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#17
09-05-2011, 08:15 PM

OH hell. Good luck with the return then.


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#18
10-11-2011, 09:30 PM

Fixed. It was a bad mobo.


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