Evil Cheese Sad Keeanu Posts: 886 Joined: Apr 2008 |
11-10-2011, 04:58 PM
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at0m Official Con Soccer Mom Posts: 7,800 Joined: Jun 2008 |
11-10-2011, 06:24 PM
(11-10-2011, 04:58 PM)Evil Cheese link Wrote: Quantum LevitationMind, blown. We need to sort this superconductor shit out, it's fucking magic. "If you want to be a Double E, bend over and grab your knees...." "Atom is Sexy!" <-- Donate your own pic to the cause! Victory needs no explanation. Defeat allows none. -Sun Tzu |
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Hobospartan BRB, Posting Posts: 1,531 Joined: Jul 2009 |
11-10-2011, 07:20 PM
holy fuck its magic! thats the coolest thing ever!
(04-18-2011, 10:39 PM)zaneyard link Wrote:yeah dude getting a finger in the ass is like taking a really good poop (06-12-2012, 07:48 AM)HeK link Wrote:And people wonder why the US has the highest crime and murder rates out of any developed or first-world nation. (01-27-2013, 11:14 PM)LT Crow link Wrote:This is why you keep a stocked bar. You don't ever run out of booze. You just might have to switch to a different drink. (11-05-2013, 08:35 PM)rumbot link Wrote:I don't think I've ever said this, but, wow that's an amazing dress and whoever designed it should get an award. (01-03-2014, 12:08 AM)CPT Crow link Wrote:I have bourbon on my keyboard. It got there through my nose. |
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Trace Killing anything that twitches Posts: 1,427 Joined: Oct 2008 |
11-10-2011, 07:40 PM
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KarthXLR Free of STD's ... lolwut? Posts: 9,927 Joined: May 2008 |
11-14-2011, 11:08 AM
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at0m Official Con Soccer Mom Posts: 7,800 Joined: Jun 2008 |
11-14-2011, 11:11 AM
(11-14-2011, 11:08 AM)Karth link Wrote: www.youtube.com/watch?v=7is6r6zXFDc[url=http://]I saw that in related videos to the superconductor and nanotech cloak too, was amused by the chocolate sauce example for sure. "If you want to be a Double E, bend over and grab your knees...." "Atom is Sexy!" <-- Donate your own pic to the cause! Victory needs no explanation. Defeat allows none. -Sun Tzu |
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Didzo Uninstalling Posts: 5,206 Joined: Dec 2009 |
11-14-2011, 03:37 PM
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k0ala BRB, Posting Posts: 1,899 Joined: Jun 2009 |
11-14-2011, 04:15 PM
(11-14-2011, 03:37 PM)Didzo link Wrote: This seems a little fucked up, no?The ATF giveth, and the ATF taketh away. On the one hand, they're striving to keep guns out of the reach of self-identified MMJ users, on the other hand, they're letting the violent, the alcoholic, and the god-knows-whatever-else users have their guns back, just 'cuz. Hey, maybe if I lie about my weed use I can get a gun. That would be fraud... but after a couple of years they'd drop the fraud and I could have a gun again. |
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Dtrain323i Oprah Winfrey Posts: 3,067 Joined: Nov 2009 |
11-14-2011, 04:43 PM
(11-14-2011, 03:37 PM)Didzo link Wrote: This seems a little fucked up, no? I'll ask you this question. If a person has committed a crime so heinous that they shouldn't be trusted with a firearm after they've "paid their debt" to society, why are they out of prison? Do the petitions for restoration of rights need to be reviewed by a judge? Absolutely. But, I don't see anything wrong with restoring someone's rights after they've been incarcerated. They used a piss poor example in the article. How do you know the "friend" wasn't raping the female? 11:35 Socks Greatbacon_work: Just accept the idea of enemas. |
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Kirby Uninstalling Posts: 3,853 Joined: Jun 2009 |
11-14-2011, 06:28 PM
(11-14-2011, 04:43 PM)Dtrain323i link Wrote: [quote author=Didzo link=topic=1507.msg230414#msg230414 date=1321303055] I'll ask you this question. If a person has committed a crime so heinous that they shouldn't be trusted with a firearm after they've "paid their debt" to society, why are they out of prison? Do the petitions for restoration of rights need to be reviewed by a judge? Absolutely. But, I don't see anything wrong with restoring someone's rights after they've been incarcerated. They used a piss poor example in the article. How do you know the "friend" wasn't raping the female? [/quote] No offence Dtrain, but you seem to just be thumping your chest as a gun owner and oafishly denying the facts in that example. Quote:Enraged, Mr. Zettergren ordered Mr. Robinson to leave. After a brief confrontation, Mr. Zettergren shot him in the temple at point-blank range with a Glock-17 semiautomatic handgun. So according to you, you as a legal gun owner have the right to determine that summary execution is necessary and justifiable after a period of time has elapsed after witnessing a rape? According to the Washington Code of Justice (which has no Castle Doctrine) Quote: (1) In the lawful defense of the slayer, or his or her husband, wife, parent, child, brother, or sister, or of any other person in his or her presence or company, when there is reasonable ground to apprehend a design on the part of the person slain to commit a felony or to do some great personal injury to the slayer or to any such person, and there is imminent danger of such design being accomplished; or The killing could have been justified. Playing devils advocate* on a really long limb, lets say the original slaying was in fact, justified, ok? That gives you the standing and justification to, and I quote, "force Mr. Robinsonâs hysterical fiancée, at gunpoint, to help him dispose of the body in a nearby river." Speaks volumes about the morality and character of a person you would stand up for. I'll also point out I agree with restoring the gun rights to convicted felons on a case-by-case basis, but I also do wish there was some very heavy-handed restrictions in place to sieve through the pool of applicants. This man, however, was obviously a subject who should have been fervently denied every attempt to regain his rights. * In all actuality, he probably got into an argument with the guy, put him on his knees or similar and shot him in the head execution style given the events afterwards. What kind of a justified shooting happens point blank in the temple? Remember, they were all heavily intoxicated. I don't see some Hollywood struggle over the gun happening where they both have hands on the gun and one manages to just barely eke the barrel to the other's head and drop the hammer. |
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at0m Official Con Soccer Mom Posts: 7,800 Joined: Jun 2008 |
11-14-2011, 07:33 PM
He has a point. If you don't trust the guy after coming out of prison (supposedly rehabilitating him and literally serving his sentence for his crime) then why are you letting him out of prison?
I understand both perspectives, and I actually agree more with Didzo than I do with Dtrain on this - I wouldn't want a violent ex-con to have a firearm either - but we make it so hard to reintegrate into society after being released, that how else is the guy going to live? It's crime or starve, in many of these cases. "If you want to be a Double E, bend over and grab your knees...." "Atom is Sexy!" <-- Donate your own pic to the cause! Victory needs no explanation. Defeat allows none. -Sun Tzu |
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Dtrain323i Oprah Winfrey Posts: 3,067 Joined: Nov 2009 |
11-14-2011, 08:01 PM
(11-14-2011, 06:28 PM)Kirby the Dick link Wrote: No offence Dtrain, but you seem to just be thumping your chest as a gun owner and oafishly denying the facts in that example. Not really chest thumping. I'm just saying we don't know the facts of this particular case. (11-14-2011, 06:28 PM)Kirby the Dick link Wrote: Enraged, Mr. Zettergren ordered Mr. Robinson to leave. After a brief confrontation, Mr. Zettergren shot him in the temple at point-blank range with a Glock-17 semiautomatic handgun. What do they mean by "confrontation"? Was there an argument? Was it a case of "hey get the fuck off my girlfriend!" then Robinson attacked Zettergen, causing him to retreat and get the gun? Or did he drop the guy to his knees and put one in his head boondock saints style? My point is that we don't know. 11:35 Socks Greatbacon_work: Just accept the idea of enemas.
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A. Crow Surprise Whopper Posts: 4,091 Joined: May 2008 |
11-14-2011, 10:14 PM
Yeah, I just came here to bash on the ATF for being fucktards in general, and discovered coherent and organized debate- this can't happen here. I'll be in my bunk.Â
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The Generic Name BRB, Posting Posts: 793 Joined: May 2009 |
11-14-2011, 11:06 PM
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kaese Accepts Non-Virgin Goat Sacrifices Posts: 1,224 Joined: Jan 2011 |
11-14-2011, 11:12 PM
(11-14-2011, 11:06 PM)The Generic Name link Wrote: Holy shit, HOLOGRAMS Pretty cool, but slightly seizure-inducing for me. ask me about mpreg |
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Didzo Uninstalling Posts: 5,206 Joined: Dec 2009 |
11-14-2011, 11:33 PM
(11-14-2011, 08:01 PM)Dtrain323i link Wrote: [quote author=Kirby the Dick link=topic=1507.msg230437#msg230437 date=1321313301] What do they mean by "confrontation"? Was there an argument? Was it a case of "hey get the fuck off my girlfriend!" then Robinson attacked Zettergen, causing him to retreat and get the gun? Or did he drop the guy to his knees and put one in his head boondock saints style? My point is that we don't know. [/quote] Two alternate scenarios: "After retreating to retrieve his gun, Zettergen, knowing he was a poor shot, maneuvered the weapon to Robinson's head in self defense and fired a lethal shot point blank." Or maybe Robinson tried to disarm Zettergen with his face. We just don't know. Maybe that whole "history of mental health problems" and friends saying he was dangerous bit was taken out of context by the New York Times and twisted to make him sound like he might be a threat to society. Then again, this is the first example of many used in the article to get across the point that giving guns to people with a history of violent crimes without some sort of review process doesn't make much sense at all. |
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at0m Official Con Soccer Mom Posts: 7,800 Joined: Jun 2008 |
11-15-2011, 12:01 AM
(11-14-2011, 11:12 PM)Käse link Wrote: [quote author=The Generic Name link=topic=1507.msg230476#msg230476 date=1321329997] Pretty cool, but slightly seizure-inducing for me. [/quote]So much cooler: http://hackaday.com/2011/11/12/ghostly-i...ns-on-fog/ +1 if you watch the video "If you want to be a Double E, bend over and grab your knees...." "Atom is Sexy!" <-- Donate your own pic to the cause! Victory needs no explanation. Defeat allows none. -Sun Tzu |
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kaese Accepts Non-Virgin Goat Sacrifices Posts: 1,224 Joined: Jan 2011 |
11-15-2011, 12:30 AM
(11-15-2011, 12:01 AM)at0m link Wrote: [quote author=Käse link=topic=1507.msg230477#msg230477 date=1321330331] Pretty cool, but slightly seizure-inducing for me. [/quote]So much cooler: http://hackaday.com/2011/11/12/ghostly-i...ns-on-fog/ +1 if you watch the video [/quote] "loldongs"? How brbu. ask me about mpreg |
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A. Crow Surprise Whopper Posts: 4,091 Joined: May 2008 |
11-15-2011, 11:14 AM
(11-15-2011, 12:30 AM)Käse link Wrote: [quote author=at0m link=topic=1507.msg230492#msg230492 date=1321333283] Pretty cool, but slightly seizure-inducing for me. [/quote]So much cooler: http://hackaday.com/2011/11/12/ghostly-i...ns-on-fog/ +1 if you watch the video [/quote] "loldongs"? How brbu. [/quote] I can't think of anything else more appropriate. |
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KarthXLR Free of STD's ... lolwut? Posts: 9,927 Joined: May 2008 |
11-16-2011, 06:48 PM
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