Dark Souls II hype

[Squishy3]

Replaying through first one to get ready for the second (well first playthrough on PC technically, beat it on console but never bothered to go past Blighttown on PC)

[A. Crow]

"requires games for windows live"

newp.

[Eschatos]

I'm getting it for PS3. And there's no indication there'll be GFWL, especially since GFWL is shutting down.

[Squishy3]

"requires games for windows live"

newp.

II won't have GFWL, DS1 has it because its literally a console port through and through and GFWL all the Xbox Live implementation is directly applicable requiring no extra work on that front, although I think they're going to remove it and replace it with Steamworks before GFWL shuts down.

[Elder]

probably will buy, not expecting to get it right out of the gate though.

Let some of the original DS shitheads find the bad exploits and bugs and then i should buy it

[A. Crow]

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"requires games for windows live"

newp.

II won't have GFWL, DS1 has it because its literally a console port through and through and GFWL all the Xbox Live implementation is directly applicable requiring no extra work on that front, although I think they're going to remove it and replace it with Steamworks before GFWL shuts down.
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yeah, you were talking about replaying the first one, I replied about the first one. 

[cbre88x]

[quote author=Squishy link=topic=7206.msg276185#msg276185 date=1391997933]
[quote author=CPT Crow link=topic=7206.msg276182#msg276182 date=1391993721]
"requires games for windows live"

newp.

II won't have GFWL, DS1 has it because its literally a console port through and through and GFWL all the Xbox Live implementation is directly applicable requiring no extra work on that front, although I think they're going to remove it and replace it with Steamworks before GFWL shuts down.
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yeah, you were talking about replaying the first one, I replied about the first one.  
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IIRC, the first one loses it's GFWL crap for good in the next month or two July.

[FlyingMongoose]

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[quote author=Squishy link=topic=7206.msg276185#msg276185 date=1391997933]
[quote author=CPT Crow link=topic=7206.msg276182#msg276182 date=1391993721]
"requires games for windows live"

newp.

II won't have GFWL, DS1 has it because its literally a console port through and through and GFWL all the Xbox Live implementation is directly applicable requiring no extra work on that front, although I think they're going to remove it and replace it with Steamworks before GFWL shuts down.
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yeah, you were talking about replaying the first one, I replied about the first one.  
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IIRC, the first one loses it's GFWL crap for good in the next month or two July.
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I'm so glad GFWL was such a bad flop, the funniest part about that whole thing was that before Valve decided to make Steam themselves, they approached Microsoft with the digital distribution AND patching on one platform idea, and EA, both of them turned them down saying "Oh that's like 10 years off". Origin does okay but only because of mandatory exclusives for EA titles (like Battlefield), but with the quality control we saw there I just can't go there anymore. Desura does good for some indie developers, but Steam is the top of the list and I don't see that changing for a good long while.

[Elder]

i keep forgetting i have desura with a number of games that i can get on steam

[Squishy3]

Dark Souls: in Summary

[rumbot]

No other game made me suffer through Games for Windows Live.

Dark Souls was a rare gem worth that torture.

I got it on a steam sale for $7 and it well surpassed games that sell for 10x that new.

[Eschatos]

So Dark Souls 2 controls differently enough from DaS that I have to learn it all over again. I'm dying regularly to the basic hollow enemies.  It's refreshing. Only negative so far is that the online wasn't working.

[Versus]

never understood the appeal at all after playing it

[Squishy3]

never understood the appeal at all after playing it

something something vagina dragons something something ornstein and smough something something ungrateful bastard who kills your best friend as a gift for you rescuing him something something amazing chest ahead

[zaneyard]

never understood the appeal at all after playing it

ok

[Elder]

the one thing i never understood was yes it was difficult, but the worst time i had getting through the game was Ornstien and Smough and that just required a small level of patience. Every other boss took me 2 tries max usually. It was a game that punishes you for being stupid and impulsive. I loved it anyway but i never understood why so many people called it uber difficult. It was like playing contra, once you play it a couple times you understand what the fuck is going on and how to react.

My hope is for DS2 to be the same way. Something that may seem unjustifiably hard but only because its new and foreign

[KarthXLR]

the one thing i never understood was yes it was difficult, but the worst time i had getting through the game was Ornstien and Smough and that just required a small level of patience. Every other boss took me 2 tries max usually. It was a game that punishes you for being stupid and impulsive. I loved it anyway but i never understood why so many people called it uber difficult. It was like playing contra, once you play it a couple times you understand what the fuck is going on and how to react.

My hope is for DS2 to be the same way. Something that may seem unjustifiably hard but only because its new and foreign

Think about modern console owners, what games sell, and difficulty. Dark Souls forced you to learn how to play, other games just let you barge past it with lower difficulty levels or poor enemy design.

[Versus]

imo the thing that makes games good isn't how obtuse or artificially difficult they are

[rumbot]

It was like playing contra, once you play it a couple times you understand what the fuck is going on and how to react.

Yes. And contra is memorable and iconic precisely because it's unforgiving.

It's why Roger Wilco was so good - so many ways to die, and dying is part of the fun.

[zaneyard]

imo the thing that makes games good isn't how obtuse or artificially difficult they are

It's really not though; it's just very punishing. That's like saying eve online is difficult. The reason it's enjoyable is because of how punishing it is to fail making it satisfying to succeed. Maybe it's just not the kind of game for you.