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[KarthXLR]

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[quote author=Eschatos link=topic=2632.msg280604#msg280604 date=1409064567]
Goddamnit, all I want is Snake back.

IIRC They've already stated they're going to patch him in, with another character or two.
[/quote]Day 1 DLC
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Patches aren't DLC, I can't snag the articles at work but Nintendo is being very cautious about doing any kind of paid first party DLC. I think there's some for Fire Emblem and maybe animal crossing.

Given what Nintendo has been doing recently with the WiiU (Free Digital game with purchase of another) - I would not be surprised if they were free.
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Unfortunately Nintendo hasn't given any confirmation about DLC. Though I'd be willing to hold my breath considering ice climbers aren't in.

[Versus]

awakening has dlc that costs at least as much as the game

[Squishy3]

I don't see how you can't be happy about Dark Pit and be happy about Dr. Mario. They're both clones, and no reason they can't just be an alternate skin. Wii Fit Guy is an alternate skin, why can't Dr. Mario and Dark Pit be alternate skins, especially since it's even less work? Especially since Dr. Mario just has electricity instead of fire.

awakening has dlc that costs at least as much as the game

it also adds completely nothing and it's not like the game doesn't take 30 hours of gameplay already

[KarthXLR]

I don't see how you can't be happy about Dark Pit and be happy about Dr. Mario. They're both clones, and no reason they can't just be an alternate skin. Wii Fit Guy is an alternate skin, why can't Dr. Mario and Dark Pit be alternate skins, especially since it's even less work? Especially since Dr. Mario just has electricity instead of fire.

[quote author=versus link=topic=2632.msg280612#msg280612 date=1409081997]
awakening has dlc that costs at least as much as the game

it also adds completely nothing and it's not like the game doesn't take 30 hours of gameplay already
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My bias for Dr. Mario exists because he was my main in Melee. There's a good chance they'll get rid of the fludd for him, so Mario won't be completely useless again. As for Dark Pit...it's not even a different costume. It's literally just a pallet swap. I hope they spice up the moveset, or else this will be "Cole and Evil Cole" part 2.

[StolenToast]

I am super excited about the newest Japanese character with spiky hair and a sword.  Kind of disappointed my particular favorite spiky-haired Japanese character with a sword didn't also get added.  Maybe they thought they had enough sword-wielding Japanese characters with spiky hairstyles.

Foreal though, that better be true, because my boy G-Watch is in it to win it.

[Cineo]

[quote author=atm0m link=topic=2632.msg280606#msg280606 date=1409070393]
[quote author=Caffeine link=topic=2632.msg280605#msg280605 date=1409069516]
[quote author=Eschatos link=topic=2632.msg280604#msg280604 date=1409064567]
Goddamnit, all I want is Snake back.

IIRC They've already stated they're going to patch him in, with another character or two.
[/quote]Day 1 DLC
[/quote]

Patches aren't DLC, I can't snag the articles at work but Nintendo is being very cautious about doing any kind of paid first party DLC. I think there's some for Fire Emblem and maybe animal crossing.

Given what Nintendo has been doing recently with the WiiU (Free Digital game with purchase of another) - I would not be surprised if they were free.
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Nintendo DLC™:

[Sogo]

[quote author=Squishy link=topic=2632.msg280613#msg280613 date=1409082156]
I don't see how you can't be happy about Dark Pit and be happy about Dr. Mario. They're both clones, and no reason they can't just be an alternate skin. Wii Fit Guy is an alternate skin, why can't Dr. Mario and Dark Pit be alternate skins, especially since it's even less work? Especially since Dr. Mario just has electricity instead of fire.

[quote author=versus link=topic=2632.msg280612#msg280612 date=1409081997]
awakening has dlc that costs at least as much as the game

it also adds completely nothing and it's not like the game doesn't take 30 hours of gameplay already
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My bias for Dr. Mario exists because he was my main in Melee. There's a good chance they'll get rid of the fludd for him, so Mario won't be completely useless again. As for Dark Pit...it's not even a different costume. It's literally just a pallet swap. I hope they spice up the moveset, or else this will be "Cole and Evil Cole" part 2.
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My biggest problem with the new Smash Brothers is Dark Pit/Paluntena. It just feels like Sakurai is going "GUYS LOOK WHAT I MADE" and shoving Kid Icarus stuff down our throats. and I'm still bitter about Waluigi, he's my main in every mariokart/party.

[Squishy3]

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[quote author=Squishy link=topic=2632.msg280613#msg280613 date=1409082156]
I don't see how you can't be happy about Dark Pit and be happy about Dr. Mario. They're both clones, and no reason they can't just be an alternate skin. Wii Fit Guy is an alternate skin, why can't Dr. Mario and Dark Pit be alternate skins, especially since it's even less work? Especially since Dr. Mario just has electricity instead of fire.

[quote author=versus link=topic=2632.msg280612#msg280612 date=1409081997]
awakening has dlc that costs at least as much as the game

it also adds completely nothing and it's not like the game doesn't take 30 hours of gameplay already
[/quote]
My bias for Dr. Mario exists because he was my main in Melee. There's a good chance they'll get rid of the fludd for him, so Mario won't be completely useless again. As for Dark Pit...it's not even a different costume. It's literally just a pallet swap. I hope they spice up the moveset, or else this will be "Cole and Evil Cole" part 2.
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My biggest problem with the new Smash Brothers is Dark Pit/Paluntena. It just feels like Sakurai is going "GUYS LOOK WHAT I MADE" and shoving Kid Icarus stuff down our throats. and I'm still bitter about Waluigi, he's my main in every mariokart/party.
[/quote]Except Kid Icarus Uprising is one of the best game releases of the past couple years. I can understand the gripe about Dark Pit and he absolutely should be an alternate costume for Pit, same thing with Dr. Mario, but Palutena? Come the fuck on. It's a goddamn brand new character. Why aren't you mad about Kirby, Dedede and Metaknight being in the game? Sakurai is responsible for all of them too. Sakurai, the man whom which Super Smash Brothers wouldn't exist without, is out of control simply because 6 characters from games he directed exist in Smash out of all forty four characters. in the leaked screenshot of the roster.

Nintendo DLC™:

Do you even know how Amiibo works with Smash 4? It's like there isn't a video explaining how Amiibo works in it or something. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odUjMhc6YgU&channel=Nintendo

[Surf314]

So is this the new tomagachi?

[FlyingMongoose]

So is this the new tomagachi?

It's basically the same bullshit Skylanders did. Of course, people are CLAIMING you'll have access to the full content of the game without the figures (excepting the unlocks those figures give), which is UNLIKE Skylanders, which actually limited full access of the game unless you had specific figure types. Personally, i still don't believe it, here's why; Nintendo is often touted as the "Non-Evil" one, Nintendo, overall, has been losing money in the console market for years; they have to gain that back in order to stay relevant in that market financially, for them to make it they must turn evil. I am expecting you to NOT have access to certain things without certain figures in numerous Amiibo based games from Nintendo.

[CaffeinePowered]

Nintendo, overall, has been losing money in the console market for years; they have to gain that back in order to stay relevant in that market financially, for them to make it they must turn evil. I am expecting you to NOT have access to certain things without certain figures in numerous Amiibo based games from Nintendo.

Uh...Nintendo's consoles have all made them money, they don't sell them as a loss-leader like Sony, Microsoft, or (in the past) Sega.

Two of the past three years they have posted a loss

http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/sto...financials


A lot of this seems to be based on flat SG&A expenses relative to their revenue stream, in particular their increasing R&D money - which to me says they're making something big if they're pulling from the reserve pot to do it. The bigger kicker is their revenue/sales stream, if the WiiU is a success in the fall we'll see things start to pick up.

Given that Smash Brothers for the WiiU will be out for Christamas I'd expect to see their 2015 numbers be healthier.

[Squishy3]

[quote author=Surf314 link=topic=2632.msg280638#msg280638 date=1409149484]
So is this the new tomagachi?

It's basically the same bullshit Skylanders did. Of course, people are CLAIMING you'll have access to the full content of the game without the figures (excepting the unlocks those figures give), which is UNLIKE Skylanders, which actually limited full access of the game unless you had specific figure types. Personally, i still don't believe it, here's why; Nintendo is often touted as the "Non-Evil" one, Nintendo, overall, has been losing money in the console market for years; they have to gain that back in order to stay relevant in that market financially, for them to make it they must turn evil. I am expecting you to NOT have access to certain things without certain figures in numerous Amiibo based games from Nintendo.
[/quote]Nintendo has been losing money in the console market but it's because of the lackluster sales of the Wii U mainly, Wii U was sold at a loss for the first 2 years and Nintendo is still losing money but is nowhere near comparable to the amount Microsoft and Sony lost on the 360 and PS3, which total over $8 billion worth of losses when combined. Sony lost $4.7 billion on the PS3 in three years. Nintendo so far has only lost $1 billion in the past three years and their current assets total around $1.25 billion. They aren't doing well, but they aren't on the verge of bankruptcy either. Sony lost another billion this past fiscal year despite the PS4 selling 4.2 million consoles by January and moving over 9 million software units.

[KarthXLR]

[quote author=Surf314 link=topic=2632.msg280638#msg280638 date=1409149484]
So is this the new tomagachi?

It's basically the same bullshit Skylanders did. Of course, people are CLAIMING you'll have access to the full content of the game without the figures (excepting the unlocks those figures give), which is UNLIKE Skylanders, which actually limited full access of the game unless you had specific figure types. Personally, i still don't believe it, here's why; Nintendo is often touted as the "Non-Evil" one, Nintendo, overall, has been losing money in the console market for years; they have to gain that back in order to stay relevant in that market financially, for them to make it they must turn evil. I am expecting you to NOT have access to certain things without certain figures in numerous Amiibo based games from Nintendo.
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Amiibo is completely optional. It does not unlock any content in the game. All it does is act as a carrier for a virtual fighter that you can battle against yourself or your friends. It's a tomogachi, not locked content.

[CaffeinePowered]

Deal has been closed and my company has been finally bought out

Good:
* Very hefty sum deposited into retirement fund
* Potential Opportunity as people jump ship
* We dont have to do a mid-month close, people who aren't accounting/finance have no idea how hugely that sort of thing sucks balls

Bad:
* Job not guaranteed
* Other parts of the finance org will be gutted within a month

[KarthXLR]

Deal has been closed and my company has been finally bought out

Good:
* Very hefty sum deposited into retirement fund
* Potential Opportunity as people jump ship
* We dont have to do a mid-month close, people who aren't accounting/finance have no idea how hugely that sort of thing sucks balls

Bad:
* Job not guaranteed
* Other parts of the finance org will be gutted within a month

Watch yourself Caff. My dad was in a similar situation and despite his efforts he has not found another job yet. Best of luck.

[Goffin]

Caff has two things going for him in this market.

1.  He's young
2.  The most serious jaw-line i've seen since super dodge ball for the nes

[Surf314]

OMG if I ever cosplay I'm gonna cosplay super dodgeball. I completely forgot about that game.

[Chief]

Deal has been closed and my company has been finally bought out

Good:
* Very hefty sum deposited into retirement fund
* Potential Opportunity as people jump ship
* We dont have to do a mid-month close, people who aren't accounting/finance have no idea how hugely that sort of thing sucks balls

Bad:
* Job not guaranteed
* Other parts of the finance org will be gutted within a month

if you're not guaranteed you better start looking now

[CaffeinePowered]

if you're not guaranteed you better start looking now

Already have been for the past few months, but I've been largely passive in my search.

[Squishy3]

UPS decided they could deliver the new flooring for my kitchen which weighed a total of 370 pounds (37 pounds a box) but couldn't deliver the bubble mailer containing Professor Layton VS Phoenix Wright that weighs less than a pound despite it sitting in the truck.