HEY LOOK SCOUT UPDATE ON THE 24TH

[zaneyard]

is the no respawn thing that much of a bad thing that arena brings out?
im sure the people that whine about that play on instant respawn and deathmatch servers...
i for one, like arena and felt that it brought out the team based play that is TEAM fortress too.

[Scary Womanizing Pig Mask]

Glad to see Watchtower get the plug. I don't really enjoy playing on it, but it's definitely a quality map that well deserves the nod.

[Dave]

is the no respawn thing that much of a bad thing that arena brings out?
im sure the people that whine about that play on instant respawn and deathmatch servers...
i for one, like arena and felt that it brought out the team based play that is TEAM fortress too.

bollocks, it was pretty much every man for himself.

[zaneyard]

[quote author=zaneyard link=topic=2359.msg67566#msg67566 date=1235001281]
is the no respawn thing that much of a bad thing that arena brings out?
im sure the people that whine about that play on instant respawn and deathmatch servers...
i for one, like arena and felt that it brought out the team based play that is TEAM fortress too.

bollocks, it was pretty much every man for himself.
[/quote]
i would think that statement is relevant only depending on who you are playing with and would also apply to every other game mode in that situation?



lol, i wanna see that happens when the update comes out for the scout

[Benito Mussolini]

[quote author=Dave link=topic=2359.msg67572#msg67572 date=1235002444]
[quote author=zaneyard link=topic=2359.msg67566#msg67566 date=1235001281]
is the no respawn thing that much of a bad thing that arena brings out?
im sure the people that whine about that play on instant respawn and deathmatch servers...
i for one, like arena and felt that it brought out the team based play that is TEAM fortress too.

bollocks, it was pretty much every man for himself.
[/quote]
i would think that statement is relevant only depending on who you are playing with and would also apply to every other game mode in that situation?



lol, i wanna see that happens when the update comes out for the scout
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That's basically the point of every class updates

[ScottyGrayskull]

The only thing about him that was stupid was that he could one shot 5/9 classes with the sticky launcher, but that's sort of balanced out by the pisspoor reload time

Erm, wut? Unless his reload time is longer than respawn time...

and his inability to fight at point blank in the hands of most players.

OP pipe to the face, or mid-air OP sticky detonation.

[Honest]

[quote author=Honest link=topic=2359.msg67504#msg67504 date=1234994986]
The only thing about him that was stupid was that he could one shot 5/9 classes with the sticky launcher, but that's sort of balanced out by the pisspoor reload time

Erm, wut? Unless his reload time is longer than respawn time...

and his inability to fight at point blank in the hands of most players.

OP pipe to the face, or mid-air OP sticky detonation.
[/quote]

Make him waste a couple shots? Ok fine that point wasn't really valid unless you like, throw a few pyros for him to blow up first then charge in when he's out of ammo. As for a pipe to the face well...that's usually just dumb luck. And...my main point was that stickies shouldn't blow people up in one kill. >.>;

[KarthXLR]

[quote author=ScottyGrayskull link=topic=2359.msg67588#msg67588 date=1235010407]
[quote author=Honest link=topic=2359.msg67504#msg67504 date=1234994986]
The only thing about him that was stupid was that he could one shot 5/9 classes with the sticky launcher, but that's sort of balanced out by the pisspoor reload time

Erm, wut? Unless his reload time is longer than respawn time...

and his inability to fight at point blank in the hands of most players.

OP pipe to the face, or mid-air OP sticky detonation.
[/quote]

Make him waste a couple shots? Ok fine that point wasn't really valid unless you like, throw a few pyros for him to blow up first then charge in when he's out of ammo. As for a pipe to the face well...that's usually just dumb luck. And...my main point was that stickies shouldn't blow people up in one kill. >.>;
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Agreed. Nothing should kill anyone in one hit, but crit's seem to not like that suggestion.

[[fr31ns]Karrde]

Pipe to the face usually does as much damage to me as it does to him x.x  Would be much better if we could get one bounce impacts.

[zaneyard]

Karrde link=topic=2359.msg67604#msg67604 date=1235015403]
Pipe to the face should do as much damage to him as it does to me x.x  Would be much better if we could get one bounce impacts.

[Loqutus]

The way I see it, the Sandman will be just fine if the things that aren't mentioned in the update are like this:

1. Flaregun-style movement for the projectile
2. Limited number of baseballs (One to 3, ammo boxes replenish)
3. Reflectable
4. Doesn't stand still when he hits (Or there's some sort of speed bonus to the baseball's movement when he charges up?)
5. Cool new taunt
6. ? ? ? ?
7. PROFIT!

[Versus]

desperately needs a kill taunt, when he slams his hand down.

[Blues]

desperately needs a kill taunt, when he slams his hand down.

Hi, I'm new here at the Steam forums. Are you guys always this retarded?

[chronomaster]

fuck sake, fucking arena mode maps? i thaught they would let that die!

The only thing Dave and I can ever agree on.

[CaffeinePowered]

Watchtower and junction aren't bad choices at all, since people wont need to download it...could probably put junction on rotation

[copulatingduck]

While Junction is a decent map for 6's (and imo a welcome shift from the usual lineup of soldiers/scoots), it can be spammy, even in 6's. I remember for a TFT or FNF way back when, we did a pickup on it with 12v12, and iirc the common complaint was "too small/spammy for this many people." I think both teams may have ended up with a full defense of C without much effort. Perhaps valve made some changes to improve the map, but short of anything drastic I would not hold out on this being viable for rotation.

While it's a decent map, I think it was a terrible choice on valve's part simply because the map is just so god-awful and painful with 24-32 players. I could be wrong, but that would be my guess.

Perhaps one more pickup is in order to see if it's worth it.

edit: IANKI I SEE YOU ON THE FORUMS, STEAM MSG ME OR HIT ME UP IN IRC!

[ScottyGrayskull]

2. Limited number of baseballs (One to 3, ammo boxes replenish)

I do like the idea of finding baseballs in crates of ammo alongside bullets and rockets. ^_^

[Dave]

[quote author=Loqutus link=topic=2359.msg67616#msg67616 date=1235018037]
2. Limited number of baseballs (One to 3, ammo boxes replenish)

I do like the idea of finding baseballs in crates of ammo alongside bullets, rockets, flares, gasoline, needles, air canisters and invisibility juice! ^_^
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[chronomaster]

[quote author=ScottyGrayskull link=topic=2359.msg67663#msg67663 date=1235048181]
[quote author=Loqutus link=topic=2359.msg67616#msg67616 date=1235018037]
2. Limited number of baseballs (One to 3, ammo boxes replenish)

I do like the idea of finding baseballs in crates of ammo alongside bullets, rockets, flares, gasoline, needles, air canisters and invisibility juice! ^_^
[/quote]


[/quote]
Baseballs are made of metal.

[[fr31ns]Karrde]

On the plus side, with junction, we might have a legit map to play when there's only a few ppl around.