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[Sponson]

PL Big Shell, isntead of a littlecart, its Fatman

[BoBoTheBum]

There are few TC maps out there, which is a horrible thing, since it's such an interesting gametype.

[Squishy3]

impact2 is amazing, all people who hate it are stupid

[CaffeinePowered]

Kaarde had a nice idea that I think might work of having a one flag CTF

You make a neutral flag and I think you might be able to make it touch-return for red

If you cap it, its map over, switch sides, you could make it fairly small and easily. Ill see if I can grind out a proof of concept tomorrow.

[cbre88x]

Kaarde had a nice idea that I think might work of having a one flag CTF
You make a neutral flag and I think you might be able to make it touch-return for red
If you cap it, its map over, switch sides, you could make it fairly small and easily. Ill see if I can grind out a proof of concept tomorrow.

yaaaaaay!

[Dave]

Kaarde had a nice idea that I think might work of having a one flag CTF

You make a neutral flag and I think you might be able to make it touch-return for red

If you cap it, its map over, switch sides, you could make it fairly small and easily. Ill see if I can grind out a proof of concept tomorrow.

fuck you that was me!

[ZargonX]

Ok, I'm going to give a go at the one-flag CTF idea, with Red having to bust into Blue's base, get the flag, and bring it back out.  Now to work on the logistics...

I'm thinking:

1. 1 cap to win; teams swap upon victory
2. After a flag drop, a relatively long timer, perhaps in the 2 to 3 minute range.  That gives the defenders time to establish a new defensive area, and the attackers time to reorganize to assault again.  This should create (in theory) constantly shifting battlegrounds.
3. A medium sized map, moving from outdoors to indoors, to create plenty of space for alternate routes of attack and interesting defensive positions.
4. I'd like to work in my sentry-gun concept from ctf_breach, to allow the defenders to seal off certain areas, but also giving the attackers the chance to turn the tables.  Might get overly complicated, though...

[Dave]

Ok, I'm going to give a go at the one-flag CTF idea, with Red having to bust into Blue's base, get the flag, and bring it back out.  Now to work on the logistics...

I'm thinking:

1. 1 cap to win; teams swap upon victory
2. After a flag drop, a relatively long timer, perhaps in the 2 to 3 minute range.  That gives the defenders time to establish a new defensive area, and the attackers time to reorganize to assault again.  This should create (in theory) constantly shifting battlegrounds.
3. A medium sized map, moving from outdoors to indoors, to create plenty of space for alternate routes of attack and interesting defensive positions.
4. I'd like to work in my sentry-gun concept from ctf_breach, to allow the defenders to seal off certain areas, but also giving the attackers the chance to turn the tables.  Might get overly complicated, though...

i was thinking of a fixed place for the intel, like inside a castle, thats pretty easy to defend. its onecap to win and the defendign team can return the intel with one touch, yes defence would have amasive advantage, but shut up, its jsut more epic when offense win.


geoff, take notes.

[CaffeinePowered]

Unfortunately there seems to be no way to do touch return, you could just set the return timer to like 10 sec but its not the same

[Dave]

Unfortunately there seems to be no way to do touch return, you could just set the return timer to like 10 sec but its not the same

could make it a neutral suitcase, and the capture point for defence is the whole map, they jsut dont get a point for scoring.

that would be a return as soon as you pick up


i guess its kinda messy tho

[Radio Raheem]

That sounds like it would be really really unfun on offense. Either its easy and offense always wins or its running into a wall of 4 Sgs, stickies, and a ton of pyros. The offense has to be a much better team to win that type of map.

[Eschatos]

That sounds like it would be really really unfun on offense. Either its easy and offense always wins or its running into a wall of 4 Sgs, stickies, and a ton of pyros. The offense has to be a much better team to win that type of map.

They could make the whole area around the flag nobuild.

[Geoff]

Unfortunately there seems to be no way to do touch return, you could just set the return timer to like 10 sec but its not the same

Sucker please.

Trigger_multiple - OnTouchAll - Flag - Kill (Disable?)

Trigger_multiple - OnTouchAll - Flag - Enable - Delay .5

Set trigger multiple to start disabled.

Flag - OnDrop - Trigger_multiple - Enable

Flag - OnPickup - Trigger_multiple - Disable

tf_teamfilter - Combine filter with trigger multiple, make it Defending team only

Parent trigger_multiple to flag


Thought about it for awhile, and came up with that.  Try that shit.

[CaffeinePowered]

[quote author=CaffeinePowered link=topic=2038.msg57961#msg57961 date=1230147587]
Unfortunately there seems to be no way to do touch return, you could just set the return timer to like 10 sec but its not the same

Sucker please.

Trigger_multiple - OnTouchAll - Flag - Kill (Disable?)

Trigger_multiple - OnTouchAll - Flag - Enable - Delay .5

Set trigger multiple to start disabled.

Flag - OnDrop - Trigger_multiple - Enable

Flag - OnPickup - Trigger_multiple - Disable

tf_teamfilter - Combine filter with trigger multiple, make it Defending team only

Parent trigger_multiple to flag


Thought about it for awhile, and came up with that.  Try that shit.



[/quote]

That won't necessarily make it return and killing the entity might fuck with the round

[Geoff]

[quote author=Geoff link=topic=2038.msg58084#msg58084 date=1230191607]
[quote author=CaffeinePowered link=topic=2038.msg57961#msg57961 date=1230147587]
Unfortunately there seems to be no way to do touch return, you could just set the return timer to like 10 sec but its not the same

Sucker please.

Trigger_multiple - OnTouchAll - Flag - Kill (Disable?)

Trigger_multiple - OnTouchAll - Flag - Enable - Delay .5

Set trigger multiple to start disabled.

Flag - OnDrop - Trigger_multiple - Enable

Flag - OnPickup - Trigger_multiple - Disable

tf_teamfilter - Combine filter with trigger multiple, make it Defending team only

Parent trigger_multiple to flag


Thought about it for awhile, and came up with that.  Try that shit.



[/quote]

That won't necessarily make it return and killing the entity might fuck with the round
[/quote]

:  Make a neutral flag below the map, so if indeed killing the flag ends the round, the neutral one will stop it from doing that.

[Geoff]

Oh crap, no I caught myself.  Actually, in addition to killing it, you have to set up a point_template to the flag.

So it would be like,

Trigger_multiple - OnTouchAll - point_template - Forcespawn - Delay .5


Its hard to figure this out, as I am away from my computer.  :-[

[ZargonX]

Ok, after thinking about it for a bit, I came up with what I hope will be an interesting concept.  One flag inside Blue base.  Red is attacking, and bringing the flag out of the base and to the checkpoint results in a win.  The key part is, there are a series of control points that can be captured that will open up new routes of approach to the flag room.  Basically, it's a Steel-style mechanic but with a one-flag CTF.  The flag room will get progressively easier to breach as Red captures control points, so Blue needs to make sure to defend those as well. Plausible? Thoughts?

[Dave]

Ok, after thinking about it for a bit, I came up with what I hope will be an interesting concept.  One flag inside Blue base.  Red is attacking, and bringing the flag out of the base and to the checkpoint results in a win.  The key part is, there are a series of control points that can be captured that will open up new routes of approach to the flag room.  Basically, it's a Steel-style mechanic but with a one-flag CTF.  The flag room will get progressively easier to breach as Red captures control points, so Blue needs to make sure to defend those as well. Plausible? Thoughts?

hmm wouldnt work for pubs, they need a direction, they would just run off in any direction if they dont have focus.

[Versus]

so they can rush it