TF Tuesdays 7/29/08

[rumsfald]

I had fun.  I was sort of aliased, but I like virgin feedback

Hope you were there for the other 3 maps, so you had a point of comparison.

Nota bene: the other 3 maps sucked.

[CaffeinePowered]

Was the map downloader ever fixed?

Lately on FNF and TF2 Tuesdays, on the new maps I keep getting "Could not download/Does not have map!" errors

Yea it was as far as I know, the corrupt bzp files were replaced and Im using a different utility, can you specify as to what maps?

[vilepickle]

[quote author=vilepickle link=topic=999.msg26008#msg26008 date=1217382558]
I had fun.  I was sort of aliased, but I like virgin feedback

Hope you were there for the other 3 maps, so you had a point of comparison.

Nota bene: the other 3 maps sucked.
[/quote]

I did play the other maps.  The CTF one had potential.  Dustbowl is... well... dustbowl.

[Wedge]

OMG, I think vilepickle was the one that kept shootin my sentries. 

The map was by far the best one we played though.  I want beta 3 and possible rotation.

Also we need to clean up the nomination list.

[CaffeinePowered]

OMG, I think vilepickle was the one that kept shootin my sentries. 

The map was by far the best one we played though.  I want beta 3 and possible rotation.

Also we need to clean up the nomination list.

This is the current nomination list, all of these may show up randomly on rtv as well

cp_badlands
cp_gravelpit
cp_dustbowl
cp_well
ctf_2fort
pl_goldrush
tc_hydro
cp_aqua
cp_castle4
cp_corporation_b3
cp_desertfortress
cp_fastlane
cp_freight_b3
cp_junction_v2
cp_labor
cp_mof_a5
cp_orange_cross2_v2
cp_orange_x4
cp_orange_z_b2
cp_overflow_b4
cp_roswell
cp_science2
cp_stag
cp_starship_b2
cp_steel_b4
cp_studio_rc4
cp_warpath2
ctf_2docks_beta4
ctf_badlands_classic_b3e
ctf_chaos
ctf_convoy_v2
ctf_epicenter2_b2
ctf_escherhaus
ctf_geothermal_b2
ctf_impact2
ctf_launchzone
ctf_mach4
ctf_moonwalk_v2
ctf_npire_v2
ctf_scorpion_v4
ctf_stronghold_b5
ctf_turbine
ctf_well2
dom_canalzone_b2
pl_cave_stage1_b2
pl_dbheights
pl_dustbowl_b4
melee_ringking


This is the list of all maps currently on the server that are NOT votable, but can be changed to by an admin

avanti_b1
cp_2tower
cp_arnold_b1
cp_bessjump
cp_bloodstained
cp_broma
cp_castle4
cp_carpo_b2
cp_corporation_b3
cp_cowpath_b3
cp_cube_b15
cp_cz2_b1
cp_depot_b2
cp_flagrun
cp_granary
cp_harbor
cp_hotelhell
cp_orange_super_fort_beta2
cp_orange_tower
cp_secretbase_b1
cp_secretbase_b2
cp_secretbase_b5
cp_spyhard_rc1
cp_starship_pb1
cp_tunnel_v2
cp_tower
cp_warpath
ctf_0fear
ctf_crossover_b3
ctf_excavation_beta
ctf_fishy_b4
ctf_freezer_v2
ctf_freightfactorys_b3
ctf_ouch_final
ctf_rf_checkmate_b3
ctf_torch_b1
ctf_turndown_b1
duel_duel1
pl_blackmesa_a5
pl_cave_stage1_b2
pl_cliffhanger_v2
pl_dustbowl_b3
pl_heights_db2

This is the Rotation

cp_aqua
ctf_chaos
cp_well
ctf_turbine
cp_labor
ctf_2fort
cp_warpath2
ctf_impact2
cp_dustbowl
ctf_mach4
cp_steel_b4
pl_goldrush

Rotation stands at 8 custom (I still count turbine despite the distribution) and 4 stock. 2 CP Dustbowl Attack/Defend, 4 Linear CP, 5 CTF, and 1 PL make up the game-type mix.

If you want to alter the rotation an Dustbowl A/D style, Gravelpit A/D or PL map would probably be best such as mof_a5, roswell, or corporation. Freight might also be a good choice.

[copulatingduck]

Isn't freight that super unoptimized one we tried a few weeks back?

[CaffeinePowered]

Isn't freight that super unoptimized one we tried a few weeks back?

No, that was depot, which is unfortunate because the guy made it just one gianormous open area he cant do much about it. Freight_b3 is from the maker of cp_steel, the one with all the trains from last week that you could jump onto and ride. I don't think you were there duck.

[Luinbariel]

I had a great time tonight. Didn't care for some of the maps as much but of course that is all part of the fun... figuring that out.

Touched the medic class for the first time... I have a new love.

Thanks for another fun time guys!

[Wedge]

All of these maps:

cp_corporation_b3
cp_junction_v2
cp_mof_a5
cp_orange_cross2_v2
cp_orange_x4
cp_orange_z_b2
cp_overflow_b4
cp_studio_rc4
ctf_badlands_classic_b3e
ctf_convoy_v2
ctf_npire_v2
ctf_scorpion_v4
ctf_stronghold_b5
pl_cave_stage1_b2
pl_dbheights
pl_dustbowl_b4

I have never seen voted, or should never be voted in.  It's kind of annoying to scroll through 4-5 pages to find a map when we'll never touch a lot of those.

[KarthXLR]

I had a great time tonight. Didn't care for some of the maps as much but of course that is all part of the fun... figuring that out.

Touched the medic class for the first time... I have a new love.

Thanks for another fun time guys!

You + me = epic heavy uber.

or was that trace hurrrrrrrrr

[CaffeinePowered]

[quote author=rumsfald link=topic=999.msg26010#msg26010 date=1217383118]
[quote author=vilepickle link=topic=999.msg26008#msg26008 date=1217382558]
I had fun.  I was sort of aliased, but I like virgin feedback

Hope you were there for the other 3 maps, so you had a point of comparison.

Nota bene: the other 3 maps sucked.
[/quote]

I did play the other maps.  The CTF one had potential.  Dustbowl is... well... dustbowl.
[/quote]

Also nice alias, surprised none pointed that out

Since I got your steamID I can give you a reserve slot on the servers if you want one, just check the other stickied thread for how to use it.

[copulatingduck]

Scorpion looks like it would be great for pickups, horrible for pub play. Some of you played npire recently, idk how it was, but it sounded like it wasn't too bad. Also, corporation is *supposed* to be good, but I've never played it either. I need to start showing up for more TFT/FNF's .

[1Trace1]

[quote author=Luinbariel link=topic=999.msg26081#msg26081 date=1217394677]
I had a great time tonight. Didn't care for some of the maps as much but of course that is all part of the fun... figuring that out.

Touched the medic class for the first time... I have a new love.

Thanks for another fun time guys!

You + me = epic heavy uber.

or was that trace hurrrrrrrrr
[/quote]

That was either 3clipse or Luin  :'(

[Luinbariel]

I think it was one of each at least once.

PROMISCUITY!

[Surf314]

All of these maps:

cp_corporation_b3
cp_junction_v2
cp_mof_a5
cp_orange_cross2_v2
cp_orange_x4
cp_orange_z_b2
cp_overflow_b4
cp_studio_rc4
ctf_badlands_classic_b3e
ctf_convoy_v2
ctf_npire_v2
ctf_scorpion_v4
ctf_stronghold_b5
pl_cave_stage1_b2
pl_dbheights
pl_dustbowl_b4

I have never seen voted, or should never be voted in.  It's kind of annoying to scroll through 4-5 pages to find a map when we'll never touch a lot of those.

Some of these maps are good and not known about or just added.

[Surf314]

This is the current nomination list, all of these may show up randomly on rtv as well

cp_badlands
cp_gravelpit
cp_dustbowl
cp_well
ctf_2fort
pl_goldrush
tc_hydro
cp_aqua
cp_castle4
cp_corporation_b3
cp_desertfortress
cp_fastlane
cp_freight_b3
cp_junction_v2
cp_labor
cp_mof_a5
cp_orange_cross2_v2  Orange maps are lazy and there are too many good customs to make these really necessary, plus its been a long time since I've heard anyone get excited over it
cp_orange_x4
cp_orange_z_b2
cp_overflow_b4
cp_roswell
cp_science2
cp_stag
cp_starship_b2
cp_steel_b4
cp_studio_rc4
cp_warpath2
ctf_2docks_beta4
ctf_badlands_classic_b3e
ctf_chaos
ctf_convoy_v2  The map is cool in theory but plays horrible.  75% of people always hate it after playing for 10 minutes.
ctf_epicenter2_b2  This map is cool for us on occasion but bad for pub play, it's just a bit difficult to figure out unless you played TFC
ctf_escherhaus
ctf_geothermal_b2
ctf_impact2
ctf_launchzone
ctf_mach4
ctf_moonwalk_v2
ctf_npire_v2
ctf_scorpion_v4
ctf_stronghold_b5
ctf_turbine
ctf_well2
dom_canalzone_b2
pl_cave_stage1_b2 Its no gold rush
pl_dbheights  I don't think this is really good enough
pl_dustbowl_b4
melee_ringking Too gimmicky, it should just be admin changeable for times when we are screwing around.  Also you don't want a group of people changing it to this during a good pub time.

I bolded the ones I think should be taken off.  I didn't comment on the ones I haven't played or couldn't recognize by the names.

[CaffeinePowered]

To respond to surf

Orange maps have their own appeal, the past 3 days we're used them to seed the server. They have their own audience and some people find them fun.

Convoy we've rtv'd to, its a love/hate map, just depends on the crowd at the time.

Epicenter is the same deal as convoy, and I don't think its that hard to figure out

Cave_b2 - could consider removing this one

Dbheights - I think its fine, again love/hate kind of thing, and considering the lack of pl maps, it stays

meelee_ringking - gets rtv'd to sometimes later at night

[Surf314]

I do agree with wedge though that the list should be cleaned up a bit.  I would have suggested roswell because it doesn't seem very popular but I like it =(.

[CaffeinePowered]

I do agree with wedge though that the list should be cleaned up a bit.  I would have suggested roswell because it doesn't seem very popular but I like it =(.

Theres a few I might be able to remove, but I see no reason to trim the list, good maps are good and theres no reason to remove them simply for the sake of removing them, even if they don't come up very often its nice to have the option to go to them there.

If anything I want to take more stock off rotation and try to move toward experimenting with a 100% custom rotation. I've found that recently its much better when you seed with a custom map like mach4 or orange_x4 as opposed to 2fort/goldrush/dustbowl. Because on #1 at least as soon as that map is over its probably going to change to a custom and all those scrubs that joined immediately leave.

[Surf314]

[quote author=Surf314 link=topic=999.msg26128#msg26128 date=1217424144]
I do agree with wedge though that the list should be cleaned up a bit.  I would have suggested roswell because it doesn't seem very popular but I like it =(.

Theres a few I might be able to remove, but I see no reason to trim the list, good maps are good and theres no reason to remove them simply for the sake of removing them, even if they don't come up very often its nice to have the option to go to them there.

If anything I want to take more stock off rotation and try to move toward experimenting with a 100% custom rotation. I've found that recently its much better when you seed with a custom map like mach4 or orange_x4 as opposed to 2fort/goldrush/dustbowl. Because on #1 at least as soon as that map is over its probably going to change to a custom and all those scrubs that joined immediately leave.
[/quote]

That's not a bad idea, it's gotten to the point where there are plenty of customs that are as good or better than the stock maps.  Plus there will be one server for customs one for stock and hopefully we can transition the cool pub scrubs on #2 to seasoned BRBUers on #1  ;D