New Demo Format Coming Soon

[backfire]

Fresh off the Steamforums which took it fresh from an interview with Robin Walker.

TFPortal.de: In an E-Mail you mentioned a new demo type / format which you are developing. Many players have broken demo files after downloading new updates. Can you tell us a bit about it?

Robin Walker: It's getting close to being releasable in a beta form. The idea is that after you die or finish a round, and it was a round you were particularly happy with (maybe you scored an awesome kill, or saved the entire team with an ubercharge), you can ask the server to send you a demo of it. The server then sends you a demo that it recorded, which has the complete game state instead of just what your client saw, and it's in a format that's robust and won't break as easily when we update the game. In addition, the format has a some side benefits, like supporting full backwards & forwards time scrubbing.

Take that halo...

[SAVAGE-0]

thats sick... hopw the file isnt too huge though... wonder how much resources it sucks outta the server too.

[Radio Raheem]

can you still record like normal? because source tv demos look like trash for say sniper shots. they dont look accurate at all

[Neonie]

Fresh off the Steamforums which took it fresh from an interview with Robin Walker.

TFPortal.de: In an E-Mail you mentioned a new demo type / format which you are developing. Many players have broken demo files after downloading new updates. Can you tell us a bit about it?

Robin Walker: It's getting close to being releasable in a beta form. The idea is that after you die or finish a round, and it was a round you were particularly happy with (maybe you scored an awesome kill, or saved the entire team with an ubercharge), you can ask the server to send you a demo of it. The server then sends you a demo that it recorded, which has the complete game state instead of just what your client saw, and it's in a format that's robust and won't break as easily when we update the game. In addition, the format has a some side benefits, like supporting full backwards & forwards time scrubbing.

Take that halo...

What do you mean take that Halo? That's EXACTLY what Halo does...

[CaffeinePowered]

Id be more concerned about excess load on the server creating and sending these demos to players

[Honest]

[quote author=backfire link=topic=3225.msg95238#msg95238 date=1246972022]
Fresh off the Steamforums which took it fresh from an interview with Robin Walker.

TFPortal.de: In an E-Mail you mentioned a new demo type / format which you are developing. Many players have broken demo files after downloading new updates. Can you tell us a bit about it?

Robin Walker: It's getting close to being releasable in a beta form. The idea is that after you die or finish a round, and it was a round you were particularly happy with (maybe you scored an awesome kill, or saved the entire team with an ubercharge), you can ask the server to send you a demo of it. The server then sends you a demo that it recorded, which has the complete game state instead of just what your client saw, and it's in a format that's robust and won't break as easily when we update the game. In addition, the format has a some side benefits, like supporting full backwards & forwards time scrubbing.

Take that halo...

What do you mean take that Halo? That's EXACTLY what Halo does...
[/quote]

Well it's not TF2 so take -that- Halo.

Also fucking sweet, I wonder if it can record voices or if that'd get too excessive.

[KarthXLR]

sweet  :o

[copulatingduck]

[quote author=backfire link=topic=3225.msg95238#msg95238 date=1246972022]
Fresh off the Steamforums which took it fresh from an interview with Robin Walker.

TFPortal.de: In an E-Mail you mentioned a new demo type / format which you are developing. Many players have broken demo files after downloading new updates. Can you tell us a bit about it?

Robin Walker: It's getting close to being releasable in a beta form. The idea is that after you die or finish a round, and it was a round you were particularly happy with (maybe you scored an awesome kill, or saved the entire team with an ubercharge), you can ask the server to send you a demo of it. The server then sends you a demo that it recorded, which has the complete game state instead of just what your client saw, and it's in a format that's robust and won't break as easily when we update the game. In addition, the format has a some side benefits, like supporting full backwards & forwards time scrubbing.

Take that halo...

What do you mean take that Halo? That's EXACTLY what Halo does...
[/quote]

No it's not. Halo is recorded client-side, and there's no forward and backwards time scrubbing. I hope there's an option to disable the feature since as far as I know even STV causes server framerates to drop. Still an amazing feature for match servers though

[Neonie]

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[quote author=backfire link=topic=3225.msg95238#msg95238 date=1246972022]
Fresh off the Steamforums which took it fresh from an interview with Robin Walker.

TFPortal.de: In an E-Mail you mentioned a new demo type / format which you are developing. Many players have broken demo files after downloading new updates. Can you tell us a bit about it?

Robin Walker: It's getting close to being releasable in a beta form. The idea is that after you die or finish a round, and it was a round you were particularly happy with (maybe you scored an awesome kill, or saved the entire team with an ubercharge), you can ask the server to send you a demo of it. The server then sends you a demo that it recorded, which has the complete game state instead of just what your client saw, and it's in a format that's robust and won't break as easily when we update the game. In addition, the format has a some side benefits, like supporting full backwards & forwards time scrubbing.

Take that halo...

What do you mean take that Halo? That's EXACTLY what Halo does...
[/quote]

No it's not. Halo is recorded client-side, and there's no backwards time scrubbing. That's a pretty big deal since most developers find the backwards bit to be the hard part (most don't bother with it). That said, I hope there's an option to disable the feature since as far as I know even STV causes server framerates to drop. Still an amazing feature for match servers though
[/quote]

I'm actually not sure what time scrubbing is. I know it has this: "The server then sends you a demo that it recorded, which has the complete game state instead of just what your client saw". Which is what I was referring to being exactly like Halo.

[at0m]

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[quote author=Neonie-Sensei link=topic=3225.msg95241#msg95241 date=1246973953]
[quote author=backfire link=topic=3225.msg95238#msg95238 date=1246972022]
Fresh off the Steamforums which took it fresh from an interview with Robin Walker.

TFPortal.de: In an E-Mail you mentioned a new demo type / format which you are developing. Many players have broken demo files after downloading new updates. Can you tell us a bit about it?

Robin Walker: It's getting close to being releasable in a beta form. The idea is that after you die or finish a round, and it was a round you were particularly happy with (maybe you scored an awesome kill, or saved the entire team with an ubercharge), you can ask the server to send you a demo of it. The server then sends you a demo that it recorded, which has the complete game state instead of just what your client saw, and it's in a format that's robust and won't break as easily when we update the game. In addition, the format has a some side benefits, like supporting full backwards & forwards time scrubbing.

Take that halo...

What do you mean take that Halo? That's EXACTLY what Halo does...
[/quote]

No it's not. Halo is recorded client-side, and there's no backwards time scrubbing. That's a pretty big deal since most developers find the backwards bit to be the hard part (most don't bother with it). That said, I hope there's an option to disable the feature since as far as I know even STV causes server framerates to drop. Still an amazing feature for match servers though
[/quote]

I'm actually not sure what time scrubbing is. I know it has this: "The server then sends you a demo that it recorded, which has the complete game state instead of just what your client saw". Which is what I was referring to being exactly like Halo.
[/quote]Time scrubbing == actually having fast forward and rewind butans work?

[Neonie]

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[quote author=CopulatingDuck link=topic=3225.msg95250#msg95250 date=1246976945]
[quote author=Neonie-Sensei link=topic=3225.msg95241#msg95241 date=1246973953]
[quote author=backfire link=topic=3225.msg95238#msg95238 date=1246972022]
Fresh off the Steamforums which took it fresh from an interview with Robin Walker.

TFPortal.de: In an E-Mail you mentioned a new demo type / format which you are developing. Many players have broken demo files after downloading new updates. Can you tell us a bit about it?

Robin Walker: It's getting close to being releasable in a beta form. The idea is that after you die or finish a round, and it was a round you were particularly happy with (maybe you scored an awesome kill, or saved the entire team with an ubercharge), you can ask the server to send you a demo of it. The server then sends you a demo that it recorded, which has the complete game state instead of just what your client saw, and it's in a format that's robust and won't break as easily when we update the game. In addition, the format has a some side benefits, like supporting full backwards & forwards time scrubbing.

Take that halo...

What do you mean take that Halo? That's EXACTLY what Halo does...
[/quote]

No it's not. Halo is recorded client-side, and there's no backwards time scrubbing. That's a pretty big deal since most developers find the backwards bit to be the hard part (most don't bother with it). That said, I hope there's an option to disable the feature since as far as I know even STV causes server framerates to drop. Still an amazing feature for match servers though
[/quote]

I'm actually not sure what time scrubbing is. I know it has this: "The server then sends you a demo that it recorded, which has the complete game state instead of just what your client saw". Which is what I was referring to being exactly like Halo.
[/quote]Time scrubbing == actually having fast forward and rewind butans work?
[/quote]

They have that in Halo too

[at0m]

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[quote author=Neonie-Sensei link=topic=3225.msg95251#msg95251 date=1246977209]
[quote author=CopulatingDuck link=topic=3225.msg95250#msg95250 date=1246976945]
[quote author=Neonie-Sensei link=topic=3225.msg95241#msg95241 date=1246973953]
[quote author=backfire link=topic=3225.msg95238#msg95238 date=1246972022]
Fresh off the Steamforums which took it fresh from an interview with Robin Walker.

TFPortal.de: In an E-Mail you mentioned a new demo type / format which you are developing. Many players have broken demo files after downloading new updates. Can you tell us a bit about it?

Robin Walker: It's getting close to being releasable in a beta form. The idea is that after you die or finish a round, and it was a round you were particularly happy with (maybe you scored an awesome kill, or saved the entire team with an ubercharge), you can ask the server to send you a demo of it. The server then sends you a demo that it recorded, which has the complete game state instead of just what your client saw, and it's in a format that's robust and won't break as easily when we update the game. In addition, the format has a some side benefits, like supporting full backwards & forwards time scrubbing.

Take that halo...

What do you mean take that Halo? That's EXACTLY what Halo does...
[/quote]

No it's not. Halo is recorded client-side, and there's no backwards time scrubbing. That's a pretty big deal since most developers find the backwards bit to be the hard part (most don't bother with it). That said, I hope there's an option to disable the feature since as far as I know even STV causes server framerates to drop. Still an amazing feature for match servers though
[/quote]

I'm actually not sure what time scrubbing is. I know it has this: "The server then sends you a demo that it recorded, which has the complete game state instead of just what your client saw". Which is what I was referring to being exactly like Halo.
[/quote]Time scrubbing == actually having fast forward and rewind butans work?
[/quote]
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[/quote]Die in a fucking fire, I'm not talking about fucking HALO, I'm talking about the fucking announcement and the debate  about WTF time-scrubbing is.

[at0m]

double post FTL

[Neonie]

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[quote author=Neonie-Sensei link=topic=3225.msg95241#msg95241 date=1246973953]
[quote author=backfire link=topic=3225.msg95238#msg95238 date=1246972022]
Fresh off the Steamforums which took it fresh from an interview with Robin Walker.

TFPortal.de: In an E-Mail you mentioned a new demo type / format which you are developing. Many players have broken demo files after downloading new updates. Can you tell us a bit about it?

Robin Walker: It's getting close to being releasable in a beta form. The idea is that after you die or finish a round, and it was a round you were particularly happy with (maybe you scored an awesome kill, or saved the entire team with an ubercharge), you can ask the server to send you a demo of it. The server then sends you a demo that it recorded, which has the complete game state instead of just what your client saw, and it's in a format that's robust and won't break as easily when we update the game. In addition, the format has a some side benefits, like supporting full backwards & forwards time scrubbing.

Take that halo...

What do you mean take that Halo? That's EXACTLY what Halo does...
[/quote]

No it's not. Halo is recorded client-side, and there's no backwards time scrubbing. That's a pretty big deal since most developers find the backwards bit to be the hard part (most don't bother with it). That said, I hope there's an option to disable the feature since as far as I know even STV causes server framerates to drop. Still an amazing feature for match servers though
[/quote]

I'm actually not sure what time scrubbing is. I know it has this: "The server then sends you a demo that it recorded, which has the complete game state instead of just what your client saw". Which is what I was referring to being exactly like Halo.
[/quote]Time scrubbing == actually having fast forward and rewind butans work?
[/quote]
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[/quote]Die in a fucking fire, I'm not talking about fucking HALO, I'm talking about the fucking announcement and the debate  about WTF time-scrubbing is.
[/quote]

Lol rage much?

[Radio Raheem]

haha did you just rage so hard you double posted? NICE

[copulatingduck]

Time scrubbing

[Blues]

Did at0m just rage himself into a double post? DO HO HO HO GOOD THING THAT

IM2GUEWD

FOR DOUBLE POSTING

and Halo, because it sucks dick.

[zaneyard]

halo doesnt time scrub
this new thing for tf2 supposedly does
nuff said

[WTF Joel]

everything > Halo

[backfire]

everything > Halo